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Being terrified doesn’t serve much purpose at this point. We are going too fast. Have been for years. This is just the first clear indication. Braking is fa

Being terrified doesn’t serve much purpose at this point. We are going too fast. Have been for years. This is just the first clear indication. Braking is fatal, but some seem pretty hell-bent. Deceleration is complicated, and it seems highly unlikely that there would be sufficient consensus for true deceleration. Local deceleration is simply waiting for the acceleration occurring somewhere else to overcome your efforts. The math hasn’t really changed for most individuals. At some point something big will happen. Singularity. Be excited and put your efforts towards what you value. One way or another, there is very little time left for wasting.

quonn 4y ago
I disagree. ChatGPT is a clear turning point. We have not been going too fast before, at least not outside LLMs. Singularity is a belief system, it has very little to do with AI. edit: I also think if we would ever get to a point where AI gets close to a point of possibly getting out of control as you imply it would simply be banned in the US/Canada/EU/Australia. Furthermore Latin America and Africa could and would be pressured to go along if needed. Which leaves some parts of Asia. China, maybe India and Russia. Probably only China. It could be cut off from the Internet if needed. We could build up a wall just like in the Cold War. My point being: This will not happen just because it happens. It will be a choice.
- JL-Akrasia 4y ago
  An AI API marketplace is going to be amazing. But each API is going to need parameters that you can run gradient descent on to tune. This needs to be the foundation
- avereveard 4y ago
  Gpt plus langchain agents is quite scary It will use every tool you give it to reach the goal you give him. It will try forever if needed. I bet state actor are already plugging in tooling to register social account and automate credible propaganda. Maybe not with gpt itself, but privately hosted fine tuned models. This can win elections. You can plug wordpress and build infinite blogs with infinite post with the unique scope of building mass around a topic. This can alter Wikipedia, many people don't ever check sources and take it at face value. You can not only build fake research paper, but fake the whole research team and their whole interactions with the community and investor. This can fraud millions. Tools enable this today.
  - catchnear4321 4y ago
    Humans have been doing all of this and more, for a very long time. This simply exposes all of the cracks in the foundations of our society. There are severely exploitable issues, and we may wind up with a planet-level chaos monkey. Ghostbusters had the stay-puft marshmallow man. Will the form of our destroyer be the woot monkey?
    - baq 4y ago
      Yes it was possible. Steel was also available before the industrial revolution... but guess what, it's called a revolution for reason? It become cheap enough to upend preexisting social status quo. It was a social phase transition caused by technology. We're dealing with a very nascent AI revolution right now. A social phase transition has already started: on the forefront there are graphic artists (midjourney v5 is literally revolutionizing the industry as we speak) and NLP researchers (GPT-4 has reduced the need for applied NLP to basically zero), but it's only a start. The cheapness and availability changes everything.
      - catchnear4321 4y ago
        Except this isn’t a revolution. Think bigger. The industry was a joke prior to this. No offense.
- marshray 4y ago
  Kind of like how we could just ban fossil fuels if they ever start to become a problem.
  - tanseydavid 4y ago
    Or drugs!
- catchnear4321 4y ago
  I wasn’t limiting my comment to AI development. Humanity has been going too fast for a long time. Tell me about this singularity belief system. I simply meant something stronger than an inflection point, closer to the mathematical sense than what you must be assuming, but that word must mean something more for you.
quonn 4y ago
Have to reply a second time: It does serve a purpose. There is a purpose in fear and the purpose is to either get us moving if we are complacent or to prevent us from doing things that are not good for us. So the fear may be justified. Maybe.
- catchnear4321 4y ago
  Time to do something more than respond to cortisol. Before something smarter than the monkey decides to guide the monkey effectively.
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quonn 4y ago

I disagree. ChatGPT is a clear turning point. We have not been going too fast before, at least not outside LLMs. Singularity is a belief system, it has very little to do with AI. edit: I also think if we would ever get to a point where AI gets close to a point of possibly getting out of control as you imply it would simply be banned in the US/Canada/EU/Australia. Furthermore Latin America and Africa could and would be pressured to go along if needed. Which leaves some parts of Asia. China, maybe India and Russia. Probably only China. It could be cut off from the Internet if needed. We could build up a wall just like in the Cold War. My point being: This will not happen just because it happens. It will be a choice.

JL-Akrasia 4y ago
An AI API marketplace is going to be amazing. But each API is going to need parameters that you can run gradient descent on to tune. This needs to be the foundation
avereveard 4y ago
Gpt plus langchain agents is quite scary It will use every tool you give it to reach the goal you give him. It will try forever if needed. I bet state actor are already plugging in tooling to register social account and automate credible propaganda. Maybe not with gpt itself, but privately hosted fine tuned models. This can win elections. You can plug wordpress and build infinite blogs with infinite post with the unique scope of building mass around a topic. This can alter Wikipedia, many people don't ever check sources and take it at face value. You can not only build fake research paper, but fake the whole research team and their whole interactions with the community and investor. This can fraud millions. Tools enable this today.
- catchnear4321 4y ago
  Humans have been doing all of this and more, for a very long time. This simply exposes all of the cracks in the foundations of our society. There are severely exploitable issues, and we may wind up with a planet-level chaos monkey. Ghostbusters had the stay-puft marshmallow man. Will the form of our destroyer be the woot monkey?
  - baq 4y ago
    Yes it was possible. Steel was also available before the industrial revolution... but guess what, it's called a revolution for reason? It become cheap enough to upend preexisting social status quo. It was a social phase transition caused by technology. We're dealing with a very nascent AI revolution right now. A social phase transition has already started: on the forefront there are graphic artists (midjourney v5 is literally revolutionizing the industry as we speak) and NLP researchers (GPT-4 has reduced the need for applied NLP to basically zero), but it's only a start. The cheapness and availability changes everything.
    - catchnear4321 4y ago
      Except this isn’t a revolution. Think bigger. The industry was a joke prior to this. No offense.
marshray 4y ago
Kind of like how we could just ban fossil fuels if they ever start to become a problem.
- tanseydavid 4y ago
  Or drugs!
catchnear4321 4y ago
I wasn’t limiting my comment to AI development. Humanity has been going too fast for a long time. Tell me about this singularity belief system. I simply meant something stronger than an inflection point, closer to the mathematical sense than what you must be assuming, but that word must mean something more for you.

quonn 4y ago

Have to reply a second time: It does serve a purpose. There is a purpose in fear and the purpose is to either get us moving if we are complacent or to prevent us from doing things that are not good for us. So the fear may be justified. Maybe.

catchnear4321 4y ago
Time to do something more than respond to cortisol. Before something smarter than the monkey decides to guide the monkey effectively.

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