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Jesus christ. What about a random person who doesn't have the tech know-how to do that? Should they just give up on privacy? Privacy is a human right, not a tec

Jesus christ. What about a random person who doesn't have the tech know-how to do that? Should they just give up on privacy? Privacy is a human right, not a technologically-advanced-person right. And before anyone says "Well, sucks to not know basic tech stuff", consider the fact that in a world where no-one has privacy, the person using Facebook from a VM is eminently more trackable than in a world where privacy is enforced globally.

_a_a_a_ 4y ago
I was talking to you specifically, not generally to random people. You're right; that would not be good advice to the average random person. But TARP probably wouldn't care. I hope you would and would have that ability. > Privacy is a human right, not a technologically-advanced-person right Yeah I suppose it is, but I'm starting to give up on the idea because all the people who whinge here on HN and elsewhere about privacy won't actually do anything about it, like give up exactly the things that they are willing to pour their life's details into. TL;DR people have to put some effort into securing their privacy and >95% of people won't. Stop blaming the companies for stealing your privacy when you're giving it away willingly.
- Ar-Curunir 4y ago
  I’m not even the OP. Regardless, your entire post is way too defeatist . We can and have made changes that meaningfully improve end-user privacy. For example, Apple’s changes on iOS led to massive reductions in data collected from user apps. This was pushed by people inside Apple. Similarly, governments can and have pushed for privacy regulations. Not all of it has been successful, but we’re at the first wave of these efforts.
  - _a_a_a_ 4y ago
    I'm normally the one accusing other people of being defeatist! My problem is that at root, people don't care enough. They'll write reams of text about how unfair it all is what with their privacy being stolen from them, but they won't actually uninstall those very things they complain about. FYI, I don't use any social media except this one, pseudonymously. If people actually cared enough to do something this would be solved very quickly indeed but they don't. > governments can and have pushed for privacy regulations. Depends. The EU has done not badly at all on this, the American government on the other hand…

_a_a_a_ 4y ago

I was talking to you specifically, not generally to random people. You're right; that would not be good advice to the average random person. But TARP probably wouldn't care. I hope you would and would have that ability. > Privacy is a human right, not a technologically-advanced-person right Yeah I suppose it is, but I'm starting to give up on the idea because all the people who whinge here on HN and elsewhere about privacy won't actually do anything about it, like give up exactly the things that they are willing to pour their life's details into. TL;DR people have to put some effort into securing their privacy and >95% of people won't. Stop blaming the companies for stealing your privacy when you're giving it away willingly.

Ar-Curunir 4y ago
I’m not even the OP. Regardless, your entire post is way too defeatist . We can and have made changes that meaningfully improve end-user privacy. For example, Apple’s changes on iOS led to massive reductions in data collected from user apps. This was pushed by people inside Apple. Similarly, governments can and have pushed for privacy regulations. Not all of it has been successful, but we’re at the first wave of these efforts.
- _a_a_a_ 4y ago
  I'm normally the one accusing other people of being defeatist! My problem is that at root, people don't care enough. They'll write reams of text about how unfair it all is what with their privacy being stolen from them, but they won't actually uninstall those very things they complain about. FYI, I don't use any social media except this one, pseudonymously. If people actually cared enough to do something this would be solved very quickly indeed but they don't. > governments can and have pushed for privacy regulations. Depends. The EU has done not badly at all on this, the American government on the other hand…