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I have a steam deck. I can't say I understand it's impact on the gaming market though.

dougmwne 4y ago
From what I understand, it gives games a good lower end hardware target to hit with optimal visuals. It also pushes games to add solid controller support on PC and be Linux/proton friendly. Some anti-cheat supports Linux now as a result of steam deck.
shrewduser 4y ago
do you not like it?
- LegitShady 4y ago
  I do like it, but I like a lot of things I would consider niche and that dont have impacts on large markets. I was wondering what they meant about impact on the gaming market. It's not clear to me how many steam decks have been sold in comparison to say, the nintendo switch. Which is why when they talk about impact I'm just not sure what the impact is.
lghh 4y ago
The title of the thread is the impact. If 75% of the most played Steam games are playable on the Steam Deck, that means they are also playable on Linux. The Steam Deck is the Trojan Horse that decouples PC Gaming from Windows. It doesn't mean that everyone is going to start installing Ubuntu or that this is the Year Of The Linux Desktop, but it does mean that Valve as a business, and thus a huge segment of the gaming population, is no longer beholden to Microsoft.
- LegitShady 4y ago
  That is fair I just think the actual impact on the industry is fairly small - the steam decks themselves are likely the largest collection of linux gaming computers to have ever existed. I think the biggest obstacles are going to be getting companies to implement anti cheats that run on linux and not in kernel mode. Apparently Apex does this, but also apparently lots of cheats now target the linux implementation. Maybe valve can figure out an effective anti cheat system for linux and license/sell its use.
- icemelt8 4y ago
  The real trojan horse will be bringing gaming to Mac, since Asahi linux now targets M1 Macs, and Proton open gaming on Linux. If Mac and Apple TVs become on par with Windows gaming, Mac and Apple TV will be the default choice for gaming.
  - ekianjo 4y ago
    mac cant run many games with proton because its arm cpu is 64 bits only and steam needs 32 bits support
  - jeroenhd 4y ago
    I highly doubt that. Macs come with high resolution screens and relatively underpowered GPUs. They also come with their own graphics API (Metal) to deal with, as well as Rosetta2. There are already forks out there that make playing games on macOS possible by porting the many Linux wrappers. I haven't seen any of them take off, really. I expect that most people who own a Mac simply buy a console for gaming.

From what I understand, it gives games a good lower end hardware target to hit with optimal visuals. It also pushes games to add solid controller support on PC and be Linux/proton friendly. Some anti-cheat supports Linux now as a result of steam deck.

shrewduser 4y ago

do you not like it?

LegitShady 4y ago
I do like it, but I like a lot of things I would consider niche and that dont have impacts on large markets. I was wondering what they meant about impact on the gaming market. It's not clear to me how many steam decks have been sold in comparison to say, the nintendo switch. Which is why when they talk about impact I'm just not sure what the impact is.

lghh 4y ago

The title of the thread is the impact. If 75% of the most played Steam games are playable on the Steam Deck, that means they are also playable on Linux. The Steam Deck is the Trojan Horse that decouples PC Gaming from Windows. It doesn't mean that everyone is going to start installing Ubuntu or that this is the Year Of The Linux Desktop, but it does mean that Valve as a business, and thus a huge segment of the gaming population, is no longer beholden to Microsoft.

LegitShady 4y ago
That is fair I just think the actual impact on the industry is fairly small - the steam decks themselves are likely the largest collection of linux gaming computers to have ever existed. I think the biggest obstacles are going to be getting companies to implement anti cheats that run on linux and not in kernel mode. Apparently Apex does this, but also apparently lots of cheats now target the linux implementation. Maybe valve can figure out an effective anti cheat system for linux and license/sell its use.
icemelt8 4y ago
The real trojan horse will be bringing gaming to Mac, since Asahi linux now targets M1 Macs, and Proton open gaming on Linux. If Mac and Apple TVs become on par with Windows gaming, Mac and Apple TV will be the default choice for gaming.
- ekianjo 4y ago
  mac cant run many games with proton because its arm cpu is 64 bits only and steam needs 32 bits support
- jeroenhd 4y ago
  I highly doubt that. Macs come with high resolution screens and relatively underpowered GPUs. They also come with their own graphics API (Metal) to deal with, as well as Rosetta2. There are already forks out there that make playing games on macOS possible by porting the many Linux wrappers. I haven't seen any of them take off, really. I expect that most people who own a Mac simply buy a console for gaming.