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Indeed.com reports an average salary of 82k a year for NYPD officers, 49% above what it considers the average annual income in the US. I recently looked into m

by naremu 4y ago

Indeed.com reports an average salary of 82k a year for NYPD officers, 49% above what it considers the average annual income in the US. I recently looked into moving to NYC and was shocked to see prices similar to my middle of nowhere, significantly lower quality city. I could work in a pizzeria and live in NYC, this "it's too expensive" is really a suburban view of the sqft. So why don't the civil servants making four times as much armed with lethal weapons live there? Frankly, I'm amazed they consider it worth the commute to live outside the city.

Avshalom 4y ago
which doesn't include the overtime (which for nypd was 2.2 billion last year https://comptroller.nyc.gov/reports/overtime-overview/ https://comptroller.nyc.gov/reports/overtime-overview/ )
wldcordeiro 4y ago
It seems to be a policy thing across the nation to have police not live in the communities they police. Part of it I'm sure is some amount of fear of retribution but I think it's really to avoid the officers from developing empathy towards the community members. I recall years ago my roommate working at a fast food restaurant and he advanced to manager level and they immediately moved him from the store he worked at to another to make sure he was more detached with his underlings and it seems like a similar tactic.
- shadowgovt 4y ago
  It's more a reflection of the general trend for middle-class folks in the US to flee to the suburbs, plus the fact that a cop job generally makes one middle-class (in both directions: the weeding process of getting hired tends to exclude the lower classes, and the pay scale tends to make one able to afford a middle-class dwelling arrangement).
- anticensor 4y ago
  Not only USA.
Alupis 4y ago
> I could work in a pizzeria and live in NYC, this "it's too expensive" is really a suburban view of the sqft. Not everyone enjoys living in a shoe box or having a dozen roommates, for instance, and not everyone enjoys living in big cities either. Suburbs are amazing, despite what all the big city folks will tell you. $82k a year in NYC is not amazing by any stretch. Could you realistically work in a pizzeria ($30k-$50k) and have a fulfilled life? Of course - but you will not be living well. There is a difference. > 49% above what it considers the average annual income in the US. You're comparing one of the highest cost of living areas with a national average. That's a very wrong comparison, and conclusion to make.

by naremu 4y ago

Avshalom 4y ago

which doesn't include the overtime (which for nypd was 2.2 billion last year https://comptroller.nyc.gov/reports/overtime-overview/ https://comptroller.nyc.gov/reports/overtime-overview/ )

wldcordeiro 4y ago

It seems to be a policy thing across the nation to have police not live in the communities they police. Part of it I'm sure is some amount of fear of retribution but I think it's really to avoid the officers from developing empathy towards the community members. I recall years ago my roommate working at a fast food restaurant and he advanced to manager level and they immediately moved him from the store he worked at to another to make sure he was more detached with his underlings and it seems like a similar tactic.

shadowgovt 4y ago
It's more a reflection of the general trend for middle-class folks in the US to flee to the suburbs, plus the fact that a cop job generally makes one middle-class (in both directions: the weeding process of getting hired tends to exclude the lower classes, and the pay scale tends to make one able to afford a middle-class dwelling arrangement).
anticensor 4y ago
Not only USA.

Alupis 4y ago

> I could work in a pizzeria and live in NYC, this "it's too expensive" is really a suburban view of the sqft. Not everyone enjoys living in a shoe box or having a dozen roommates, for instance, and not everyone enjoys living in big cities either. Suburbs are amazing, despite what all the big city folks will tell you. $82k a year in NYC is not amazing by any stretch. Could you realistically work in a pizzeria ($30k-$50k) and have a fulfilled life? Of course - but you will not be living well. There is a difference. > 49% above what it considers the average annual income in the US. You're comparing one of the highest cost of living areas with a national average. That's a very wrong comparison, and conclusion to make.