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It more like asking the US government to get involved and if one of the 20 kids keeps on eating marshmallows, large numbers of federal agents raid the kid's off

It more like asking the US government to get involved and if one of the 20 kids keeps on eating marshmallows, large numbers of federal agents raid the kid's offices and shut down the kid's compute resources.

pjkundert 4y ago
It’s more like sending the cops to raid every house with a marshmallow (Mac M2) because they might run a local copy of an LLM. This isn’t about “dangerous” LLMs. This is about unfettered LLM in the hands of the unwashed masses that actually tell the truth about what they find in their training datasets…
- hollerith 4y ago
  AIs running on Macs are not a danger (and if ChatGPT were going to kill everyone it would've done it already): it is the AIs running on huge farms of GPUs or TPUs that are being planned that are the danger. Also, the author (Eliezer Yudkowsky) calling for the shutdown of AI research on huge server farms doesn't have any stake (investment or employment relationship) in any AI company that would be harmed by telling the truth about what they find in their training datasets.
Havoc 4y ago
>It more like asking the US government to get involved US gov has direct jurisdiction over 4% of the worlds population and some pretty decent indirect influence over the other 96%. It's good, but nowhere enough to prevent secret marshmallow eating on a global scale. Not even close
- hollerith 4y ago
  My impression is that most of the short-term danger is from AI researchers residing in the US (and of the remainder, most reside in Britain). But even if that were not true, as a US citizen, even if there is nothing I can do about my getting killing by, e.g., Chinese AI researchers, I'm still going to work hard to prevent the AI researchers living in my own country from ending the human race. I'm responsible for doing my part in the governance of my own country, they told me in high school. I see no good solution to this problem, no path to safety, but that does not mean I am not going to do what I can.

pjkundert 4y ago

It’s more like sending the cops to raid every house with a marshmallow (Mac M2) because they might run a local copy of an LLM. This isn’t about “dangerous” LLMs. This is about unfettered LLM in the hands of the unwashed masses that actually tell the truth about what they find in their training datasets…

hollerith 4y ago
AIs running on Macs are not a danger (and if ChatGPT were going to kill everyone it would've done it already): it is the AIs running on huge farms of GPUs or TPUs that are being planned that are the danger. Also, the author (Eliezer Yudkowsky) calling for the shutdown of AI research on huge server farms doesn't have any stake (investment or employment relationship) in any AI company that would be harmed by telling the truth about what they find in their training datasets.

Havoc 4y ago

>It more like asking the US government to get involved US gov has direct jurisdiction over 4% of the worlds population and some pretty decent indirect influence over the other 96%. It's good, but nowhere enough to prevent secret marshmallow eating on a global scale. Not even close

hollerith 4y ago
My impression is that most of the short-term danger is from AI researchers residing in the US (and of the remainder, most reside in Britain). But even if that were not true, as a US citizen, even if there is nothing I can do about my getting killing by, e.g., Chinese AI researchers, I'm still going to work hard to prevent the AI researchers living in my own country from ending the human race. I'm responsible for doing my part in the governance of my own country, they told me in high school. I see no good solution to this problem, no path to safety, but that does not mean I am not going to do what I can.