I wasn't comparing with solid state, I was comparing with computer emulations for tube saturation. I have owned all of tubes, solid state, and dsp based. But I

I wasn't comparing with solid state, I was comparing with computer emulations for tube saturation. I have owned all of tubes, solid state, and dsp based. But I would not buy hardware emulations anymore - I just do that on general purpose computers that don't depreciate to nothing and wind up in landfill. My point is - you buy a tube amp (or quality hardware solid state that is not a computer on a surface mount pcb that no one can repair) and you will have it for decades or sell it at close to what you paid. Not at all the case for Line 6 style stuff.