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> That's right and then they go and find stuff that is not appropriate. But most kids don't manage to do that for some time. School libraries (typically) don'

> That's right and then they go and find stuff that is not appropriate. But most kids don't manage to do that for some time. School libraries (typically) don't have porn in them, and internet access is often supervised or limited. The root of this thread quoted the article selectively. The full quote is: > It added OpenAI does not verify the age of users and exposes "minors to absolutely unsuitable answers compared to the their degree of development and self-awareness." That is very reasonable take, especially given how insane ChatGPT can be.

SanderNL 4y ago
Verifying by asking? .. I understand it's important, but I hate bureaucratic "solutions" that are technically correct but don't actually fix the issue.
- tfourb 4y ago
  There are standardized ways to check age based on national IDs and a company worth billions in venture capital like OpenAI can certainly afford to implement them. Alternatively they could just not publish a batshit crazy language model just because they see an opportunity to juice their valuation and spend a bit more time and money developing it so that it is reasonably safe to use for minors.
  - ronsor 4y ago
    So you're saying OpenAI should collect more personal data?
    - tablespoon 4y ago
      > So you're saying OpenAI should collect more personal data? Or I supposed they could sell their models as packaged software, and the store clerk can check the ID. The model of standalone packaged software has several benefits to consumers, and privacy is one of those.
    - emporas 4y ago
      OpenAI doesn't collect personal data, more than any other similar service, Midjourney comes to mind, but there are a lot more. Reinforcement learning is the technique they use, and that means they are feeding the machine good text or image generations, produced by the machine. This means that the data are mushed together in the weights of billions and trillions of other data, and there is no way to get them back.

SanderNL 4y ago

Verifying by asking? .. I understand it's important, but I hate bureaucratic "solutions" that are technically correct but don't actually fix the issue.

tfourb 4y ago
There are standardized ways to check age based on national IDs and a company worth billions in venture capital like OpenAI can certainly afford to implement them. Alternatively they could just not publish a batshit crazy language model just because they see an opportunity to juice their valuation and spend a bit more time and money developing it so that it is reasonably safe to use for minors.
- ronsor 4y ago
  So you're saying OpenAI should collect more personal data?
  - tablespoon 4y ago
    > So you're saying OpenAI should collect more personal data? Or I supposed they could sell their models as packaged software, and the store clerk can check the ID. The model of standalone packaged software has several benefits to consumers, and privacy is one of those.
  - emporas 4y ago
    OpenAI doesn't collect personal data, more than any other similar service, Midjourney comes to mind, but there are a lot more. Reinforcement learning is the technique they use, and that means they are feeding the machine good text or image generations, produced by the machine. This means that the data are mushed together in the weights of billions and trillions of other data, and there is no way to get them back.