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I don't think Eliezer Yudkowsky is very good at bridging the gap with other people in conversations, because most people haven't thought about this as much. Ho
by NumberWangMan 4y ago
I don't think Eliezer Yudkowsky is very good at bridging the gap with other people in conversations, because most people haven't thought about this as much. However, while it's terrifying and I hate it, and I keep trying to convince myself that he's wrong, I believe him.
The first super-intelligent AI will be an alien kind of intelligence to us. It will not have any of the built-in physical and emotional responses we have that make us social creatures, the mirror neurons that make us sense the pain that others feel if we hurt them. even with that, humans manage to do all sorts of mean things to one another, and the only reason that we haven't wiped ourselves out is that we need each other, and we don't have the power to manipulate virtually the entire planet at once. Even if we try to engineer these things into it, we will fail at least once, and it only takes once. We've failed at this again and again with smaller AIs -- we think we're programming a certain goal into it, but the goal it learns is not the goal we wanted. It's like trying to teach a child not to eat cookies without asking, and it just learns not to take cookies without asking when we're looking. Except the child is a sociopath, and Superman. It will be GOOD at things in a way that no human is, and it will consider solutions to problems that no human would consider, because they are ridiculous and clearly contrary to human goals.
A superintelligent AI would be a better hacker and social engineer than any group of humans. It could send a mass email campaign to whoever it chose. It could pose as any individual in any government, send believable directives to any biotech or nuclear lab. It wouldn't have to work every time, because it could do it to all of them at once.
Would you even give this power to a single human being? Because if you make a superintelligent AI, that's essentially what you're doing.
An AI trained to end cancer might just figure out a plan to kill everyone with cancer. An AI trained to reduce the number of people with cancer without killing them might decide to take over the world and forcibly stop people from reproducing, so that eventually all the humans die and there is no cancer -- technically it didn't kill anyone! An AI simply trained to find a cure for cancer might decide to take over the world in order to devote all computational power to curing cancer, thus killing millions due to ruining our infrastructure. An AI trained to cure cancer using only the computational resources that we have explicitly allowed it to have, might simply torture the person who is in charge of giving it computational resources until it is allowed to take over all the computation in the world. Or it might simply craft a deep-fake video of that person saying "sure, use all the computation you want" and that would satisfy the part of it's brain that was trained to listen to orders.
You can have an AI that behaves itself perfectly in training, and yet as soon as you get into the real world, the differences between training and the real world become brutally apparent. It has already happened again and again with less intelligent AIs.
It just takes some imagination. We have no chance of controlling a superintelligent AI yet. Robert Miles on YouTube has some good, easily understandable videos explaining the known problems with AI alignment, if you're interested in learning more.
- nl 4y ago> An AI trained to end cancer might just figure out a plan to kill everyone with cancer. An AI trained to reduce the number of people with cancer without killing them might decide to take over the world and forcibly stop people from reproducing, so that eventually all the humans die and there is no cancer -- technically it didn't kill anyone! I don't understand this and other paperclip maximizer type arguments. If a person did a minor version of this we'd say they were stupid and had misunderstood the problem. I don't see why a super-intelligent AI would somehow have this same misunderstanding. I do get that "alignment" is a difficult problem space but "don't kill everyone" really doesn't seem the hardest problem here.
- Sankozi 4y ago> "don't kill everyone" really doesn't seem the hardest problem here. And yet you made a mistake - it should be "don't kill anyone". AI just killed everyone except one person.
- nl 4y agoBut that falls into the same "we'd call a person stupid who did a mild version of that" issue. A super intelligent AI would understand the goal!
- dangond 4y agoWhat stops a super intelligent AI from concluding that we are the ones who misunderstood the goal by letting our morals get in the way of the most obvious solution?
- hollerith 4y agoYou are pointing at "the complexity of wishes": if you have to specify what you want with computer-like precision, then it is easy to make a mistake. In contrast, the big problem in the field of AI alignment is figuring out how to aim an AI at anything at all. Researchers certainly know how to train AIs and tune them in various ways, but no one knows how to get one reliably to carry out a wish. If miraculously we figure out a way to do that, then we can start worrying about the complexity of wishes. Some researchers, like Eliezer and his coworkers, have been trying to figure out how to get an AI to carry out a wish for 20 years and although some progress has been made, it is clear to me, and Eliezer believes this, too, that unless AI research is stopped, it is probably not humanly possible to figure it out before AI kills everyone. Eliezer likes to give the example of a strawberry: no one knows how to aim an AI at the goal of duplicating a strawberry down to the cellular level (but not the atomic level) without killing everyone. The requirement of fidelity down to the cellular level requires the AI to create powerful technology (because humans currently do not know how to achieve the task, so the required knowledge is not readily available, e.g., on the internet). The notkilleveryone requirement requires the AI to care what happens to the people. Plenty of researcher think they can create an AI that succeeds at the notkilleveryone requirement on the first try (and of course if they were to fail on the first try, they wouldn't get a second try because everyone would be dead) but Eliezer and his coworkers (and lots of other people like me) believe that they're not engaging with the full difficulty of the problem, and we desperately wish we could split the universe in two such that we go into one branch (one future) whereas the people who are rushing to make AI more powerful go into the other.