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> Other ways of measuring “happiness” are bullshit as cultures are different. Suicide is a great metric for happiness. Suicide rate doesn't measure anything ex

> Other ways of measuring “happiness” are bullshit as cultures are different. Suicide is a great metric for happiness. Suicide rate doesn't measure anything except suicide rate. The happiness index and other studies are very thorough in what they measure, and choose things common to all cultures. Bizarre to be defending a totalitarian regime because you have no crime. I guess you really think the means justify the ends, maybe because you don't realize the level of compromise.

aydyn 4y ago
Singapore is totalitarian? needs to be on a human rights list? Is one of the worst places to live? whats with this reddit-tier hyperbole? These comments are seriously out of touch, it comes off as trolling.
- Zurrrrr 4y ago
  I'm not trolling. Just because it might be a very pleasant place to live doesn't mean it isn't also totalitarian. They charge people coming into their country if they have weed in their system (or their law allows them to and it seems they enforce it enough that countries warn their citizens), breaking no law in their country, and quite likely adhering to the law in their country of origin. They make suicide illegal and PUNISH peoples attempts at it. You don't think those two points alone (without even bothing to list additional obscene laws) are INSANE? Do you really want to defend them?
  - stametseater 4y ago
    > breaking no law in their country Singaporean law forbids their citizens and residents from using drugs in other countries. So if a Singapore resident goes to Amsterdam or Portland and smokes a joint there, they are complying with local laws but still breaking Singaporean laws. Laws with this sort of extraterritorial jurisdiction aren't without precedent. Particularly, other countries, like the US, UK and many others, have similar laws concerning some forms of sex tourism. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extraterritorial_jurisdiction https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extraterritorial_jurisdiction > Just because it might be a very pleasant place to live doesn't mean it isn't also totalitarian. With that I agree, but I think a better word to describe Singapore is 'authoritarian.' Totalitarianism is an extreme form of authoritarianism, in which the government exercises a near total control over every aspect of your life. Singapore regulates many aspects of their citizens lives, as do all functional governments to at least some degree, but I think it falls short of totalitarianism.
    - Zurrrrr 4y ago
      > Singaporean law forbids their citizens and residents from using drugs in other countries. The problem is with that law being applied to non-residents. If Singapore wants to police it's citizens lik that, it's fine. But to arrest a Canadian because they smoked weed a couple of days before arriving at Singpore customs, where it's legal in Montreal where they were? > With that I agree, but I think a better word to describe Singapore is 'authoritarian.' Another user pointed that out and I agree entirely. I exaggerated/resorted to hyperbole more than intended.
      - aydyn 4y ago
        Other countries, including the U.S. and European countries regulate who and who cannot come into their borders all the time. Youre entirely free to smoke weed and not visit Singapore. Who are you to dictate what laws they set on their own soil? Re sucide: you should probably fact check that, because the criminality of suicide was recently repealed in Singapore. But even if it wasnt, I find your stance hyperbolic considering lots of countries still criminalize suicide. Places in the U.S. considered suicide criminal all the way up to the 90s.
        Zurrrrr 4y ago
        > Who are you to dictate what laws they set on their own soil? I'm not dictating, I'm disaproving. Sovereign nations can indeed have whatever laws they want, and I don't have to go there but I can continue to speak out against bad and unjust laws as I see it. > I find your stance hyperbolic considering lots of countries still criminalize suicide. If that's true, that's ignorance on my part.
      - stametseater 4y ago
        Canada will ban Americans for life who've driven drunk in America but never drank a drop anywhere in Canada. If you try to sneak or lie your way in, they'll arrest you. Don't go to Singapore if you like drugs. How hard can that be? I've been not going to Singapore my entire life.

aydyn 4y ago

Singapore is totalitarian? needs to be on a human rights list? Is one of the worst places to live? whats with this reddit-tier hyperbole? These comments are seriously out of touch, it comes off as trolling.

Zurrrrr 4y ago
I'm not trolling. Just because it might be a very pleasant place to live doesn't mean it isn't also totalitarian. They charge people coming into their country if they have weed in their system (or their law allows them to and it seems they enforce it enough that countries warn their citizens), breaking no law in their country, and quite likely adhering to the law in their country of origin. They make suicide illegal and PUNISH peoples attempts at it. You don't think those two points alone (without even bothing to list additional obscene laws) are INSANE? Do you really want to defend them?
- stametseater 4y ago
  > breaking no law in their country Singaporean law forbids their citizens and residents from using drugs in other countries. So if a Singapore resident goes to Amsterdam or Portland and smokes a joint there, they are complying with local laws but still breaking Singaporean laws. Laws with this sort of extraterritorial jurisdiction aren't without precedent. Particularly, other countries, like the US, UK and many others, have similar laws concerning some forms of sex tourism. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extraterritorial_jurisdiction https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extraterritorial_jurisdiction > Just because it might be a very pleasant place to live doesn't mean it isn't also totalitarian. With that I agree, but I think a better word to describe Singapore is 'authoritarian.' Totalitarianism is an extreme form of authoritarianism, in which the government exercises a near total control over every aspect of your life. Singapore regulates many aspects of their citizens lives, as do all functional governments to at least some degree, but I think it falls short of totalitarianism.
  - Zurrrrr 4y ago
    > Singaporean law forbids their citizens and residents from using drugs in other countries. The problem is with that law being applied to non-residents. If Singapore wants to police it's citizens lik that, it's fine. But to arrest a Canadian because they smoked weed a couple of days before arriving at Singpore customs, where it's legal in Montreal where they were? > With that I agree, but I think a better word to describe Singapore is 'authoritarian.' Another user pointed that out and I agree entirely. I exaggerated/resorted to hyperbole more than intended.
    - aydyn 4y ago
      Other countries, including the U.S. and European countries regulate who and who cannot come into their borders all the time. Youre entirely free to smoke weed and not visit Singapore. Who are you to dictate what laws they set on their own soil? Re sucide: you should probably fact check that, because the criminality of suicide was recently repealed in Singapore. But even if it wasnt, I find your stance hyperbolic considering lots of countries still criminalize suicide. Places in the U.S. considered suicide criminal all the way up to the 90s.
      - Zurrrrr 4y ago
        > Who are you to dictate what laws they set on their own soil? I'm not dictating, I'm disaproving. Sovereign nations can indeed have whatever laws they want, and I don't have to go there but I can continue to speak out against bad and unjust laws as I see it. > I find your stance hyperbolic considering lots of countries still criminalize suicide. If that's true, that's ignorance on my part.
    - stametseater 4y ago
      Canada will ban Americans for life who've driven drunk in America but never drank a drop anywhere in Canada. If you try to sneak or lie your way in, they'll arrest you. Don't go to Singapore if you like drugs. How hard can that be? I've been not going to Singapore my entire life.