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If a person you had an affair with 10 years ago threatens you that they will tell your spouse or try to damage your reputation unless you pay them 130k, I think

If a person you had an affair with 10 years ago threatens you that they will tell your spouse or try to damage your reputation unless you pay them 130k, I think that would generally be considered extortion.

CyberDildonics 4y ago
First, extortion would typically be with a threat of violence or destruction, so you are thinking of blackmail. Second, criminal blackmail excludes legal processes. Third, she didn't threaten trump, she tried to sell her story after he lied to her about being a contestant on the apprentice. https://www.scrofanolaw.com/federal-blackmail-and-extortion/ https://www.scrofanolaw.com/federal-blackmail-and-extortion/ https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/19/nyregion/trump-stormy-daniels-felony-charges.html https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/19/nyregion/trump-stormy-dan...
- singleshot_ 4y ago
  Blackmail is a form of extortion. If it were true that extortion required violence or destruction (it does not) then so would blackmail. I’m not exactly what you mean when you say that “criminal blackmail excludes legal process,” but if you mean that threatening to go to the police with evidence of a crime if the criminal does not give you something of value, you are absolutely mistaken. Threatening to go to the police without seeking something of value for your silence is certainly legal, but the moment you try to sell your silence you’re going to be wandering around in the vicinity of extortion.
  - HeyLaughingBoy 4y ago
    > “criminal blackmail excludes legal process,” They're saying that "If you don't pay me $X, I'll tell your wife I slept with you" is not illegal, so it doesn't constitute criminal blackmail.
    - singleshot_ 4y ago
      I’d probably run that assertion by a lawyer before I lived by it.
    - belorn 4y ago
      Pay me or I will ruin your reputation is very much blackmail. Investigative journalism would become potentially extremely profitable if it wasn't.
      - HeyLaughingBoy 4y ago
        Of course it's blackmail. The question is if it's criminal or not.
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        singleshot_ 4y ago
        Blackmail is a crime, so this would be a pretty safe bet.

CyberDildonics 4y ago

First, extortion would typically be with a threat of violence or destruction, so you are thinking of blackmail. Second, criminal blackmail excludes legal processes. Third, she didn't threaten trump, she tried to sell her story after he lied to her about being a contestant on the apprentice. https://www.scrofanolaw.com/federal-blackmail-and-extortion/ https://www.scrofanolaw.com/federal-blackmail-and-extortion/ https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/19/nyregion/trump-stormy-daniels-felony-charges.html https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/19/nyregion/trump-stormy-dan...

singleshot_ 4y ago
Blackmail is a form of extortion. If it were true that extortion required violence or destruction (it does not) then so would blackmail. I’m not exactly what you mean when you say that “criminal blackmail excludes legal process,” but if you mean that threatening to go to the police with evidence of a crime if the criminal does not give you something of value, you are absolutely mistaken. Threatening to go to the police without seeking something of value for your silence is certainly legal, but the moment you try to sell your silence you’re going to be wandering around in the vicinity of extortion.
- HeyLaughingBoy 4y ago
  > “criminal blackmail excludes legal process,” They're saying that "If you don't pay me $X, I'll tell your wife I slept with you" is not illegal, so it doesn't constitute criminal blackmail.
  - singleshot_ 4y ago
    I’d probably run that assertion by a lawyer before I lived by it.
  - belorn 4y ago
    Pay me or I will ruin your reputation is very much blackmail. Investigative journalism would become potentially extremely profitable if it wasn't.
    - HeyLaughingBoy 4y ago
      Of course it's blackmail. The question is if it's criminal or not.
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      - singleshot_ 4y ago
        Blackmail is a crime, so this would be a pretty safe bet.