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>> Leverage ChatGPT so students learn by repetition in innovative games with cool interfaces > It's astoundingly useful and you are wrong here. It may be usef

>> Leverage ChatGPT so students learn by repetition in innovative games with cool interfaces > It's astoundingly useful and you are wrong here. It may be useful, but I'm not wrong here. Software engineers and the like are too-frequently technology fetishists that are like the proverbial guy who has a hammer and thinks everything is a nail. Even if "innovative games with cool interfaces" is the right way to educate kids, which is very unlikely to be true, those games aren't going to be spat out by ChatGPT. And if they can be spat out by ChatGPT, why even bother educating most of those kids at all?

ThorsBane 4y ago
education is a lot more than the pipeline for getting skills built up. ChatGPT is a massive pipe that will allow for increase in throughput of information into curious brains for almost no cost. With increasingly more valuable answers over time. And it can already quiz you on math and teach you math. It's amazing. I love it.
- tablespoon 4y ago
  > ChatGPT is a massive pipe that will allow for increase in throughput of information into curious brains for almost no cost. With increasingly more valuable answers over time. And it can already quiz you on math and teach you math. > It's amazing. I love it. It's pretty clear you're a true believer, who takes the marketing fantasy at face value. But it's still a fantasy. They said the same thing about the web in 1995.
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  - ThorsBane 4y ago
    The web succeeded in its initial mission and is an amazing innovation. I love the Internet. ChatGPT is a massive innovation. Check again in a year lol.
    - croes 4y ago
      The people thought the web would do what you now think ChatGPT will do. Now the web is a big source of misinformation, spam and ads. ChatGPT is new and that's why it's results are impressive at the moment but people are already exploiting it's flaws. What a year and ads and spam will lower it's usefulness.
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- userbinator 4y ago
  ChatGPT is a massive pipe... of bullshit. Unless your goal is to turn humans into mindless drones which are easily persuaded and uncritical, it's possibly the worst thing to learn from.
  - ThorsBane 4y ago
    Incorrect assesment. That's what people said about Wikipedia when I was in elementary school. The internet and Wikipedia are amazing. ChatGPT is amazing if you use it properly - if you prompt in ways that exercise understanding of the math itself, it boosts knowledge of math. I filled in gaps in my comp sci math fundamentals lazily over a weekend just in case. It's an amazing tool for learning measurable skills and improving in measurable skills, but admittedly only in limited workflows still. I love ChatGPT so far for my workflow. It's amazing for learning. ChatGPT is information learning superpowers. Give me more power please. More power please.
- croes 4y ago
  Those pipes already exist without the risk of errors and other strange stuff ChatGPT produces. Sites like https://www.khanacademy.org/ https://www.khanacademy.org/ are way better than the shiny new toy ChatGPT. ChatGPT will confidently tell you nonsense if it's given the wrong prompt and you have no chance to know in advance.
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ltbarcly3 4y ago
> Software engineers and the like are too-frequently technology fetishists that are like the proverbial guy who has a hammer and thinks everything is a nail. Irrelevant even if true. > Even if "innovative games with cool interfaces" is the right way to educate kids, which is very unlikely to be true, Presumably baseless personal opinion offered without even attempting to provide support. > those games aren't going to be spat out by ChatGPT. This is just easily demonstrated to be false already. > And if they can be spat out by ChatGPT, why even bother educating most of those kids at all? Dramatic Irony

ThorsBane 4y ago

education is a lot more than the pipeline for getting skills built up. ChatGPT is a massive pipe that will allow for increase in throughput of information into curious brains for almost no cost. With increasingly more valuable answers over time. And it can already quiz you on math and teach you math. It's amazing. I love it.

tablespoon 4y ago
> ChatGPT is a massive pipe that will allow for increase in throughput of information into curious brains for almost no cost. With increasingly more valuable answers over time. And it can already quiz you on math and teach you math. > It's amazing. I love it. It's pretty clear you're a true believer, who takes the marketing fantasy at face value. But it's still a fantasy. They said the same thing about the web in 1995.
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- ThorsBane 4y ago
  The web succeeded in its initial mission and is an amazing innovation. I love the Internet. ChatGPT is a massive innovation. Check again in a year lol.
  - croes 4y ago
    The people thought the web would do what you now think ChatGPT will do. Now the web is a big source of misinformation, spam and ads. ChatGPT is new and that's why it's results are impressive at the moment but people are already exploiting it's flaws. What a year and ads and spam will lower it's usefulness.
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userbinator 4y ago
ChatGPT is a massive pipe... of bullshit. Unless your goal is to turn humans into mindless drones which are easily persuaded and uncritical, it's possibly the worst thing to learn from.
- ThorsBane 4y ago
  Incorrect assesment. That's what people said about Wikipedia when I was in elementary school. The internet and Wikipedia are amazing. ChatGPT is amazing if you use it properly - if you prompt in ways that exercise understanding of the math itself, it boosts knowledge of math. I filled in gaps in my comp sci math fundamentals lazily over a weekend just in case. It's an amazing tool for learning measurable skills and improving in measurable skills, but admittedly only in limited workflows still. I love ChatGPT so far for my workflow. It's amazing for learning. ChatGPT is information learning superpowers. Give me more power please. More power please.
croes 4y ago
Those pipes already exist without the risk of errors and other strange stuff ChatGPT produces. Sites like https://www.khanacademy.org/ https://www.khanacademy.org/ are way better than the shiny new toy ChatGPT. ChatGPT will confidently tell you nonsense if it's given the wrong prompt and you have no chance to know in advance.

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ltbarcly3 4y ago

> Software engineers and the like are too-frequently technology fetishists that are like the proverbial guy who has a hammer and thinks everything is a nail. Irrelevant even if true. > Even if "innovative games with cool interfaces" is the right way to educate kids, which is very unlikely to be true, Presumably baseless personal opinion offered without even attempting to provide support. > those games aren't going to be spat out by ChatGPT. This is just easily demonstrated to be false already. > And if they can be spat out by ChatGPT, why even bother educating most of those kids at all? Dramatic Irony