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> Leverage ChatGPT so students learn by repetition in innovative games with cool interfaces You mean shitty, derivative games that haven't been tested at all?

> Leverage ChatGPT so students learn by repetition in innovative games with cool interfaces You mean shitty, derivative games that haven't been tested at all? There's no good reason to use ChatGPT in education like that, and doing so is pure technology fetishism.

ltbarcly3 4y ago
I think you might not have used chatgpt much. In the last year it's gotten much much better, it can do lots of useful things and with 1/1000th the effort of alternative ways of performing the same task. Assuming they can continue to improve it at even a fraction of it's current rate of improvement, even a small fraction, technology like this will be in everything we do and constantly in our ear. It's astoundingly useful and you are wrong here.
- ThorsBane 4y ago
  well said. chatgpt is awesome. it will free everyone. Related news from earlier: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35364985 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35364985 More family time! And higher quality of education outcomes for very cheap! It's truly the iphone moment for AI including the increasingly cheaper pipelines to train it. I remember how just a couple months ago it was still costing $50k+ to realistically get something resembling GPT-3+ performance. Now that's way less. Wohoo!!! Innovation abounds!!! <3
  - croes 4y ago
    The internet is awesome. it will free everyone. Didn't work out. Technology can't correct human flaws. It's always the same error to think it will work, but in the end it's just a reason to reduce funds for education.
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- tablespoon 4y ago
  >> Leverage ChatGPT so students learn by repetition in innovative games with cool interfaces > It's astoundingly useful and you are wrong here. It may be useful, but I'm not wrong here. Software engineers and the like are too-frequently technology fetishists that are like the proverbial guy who has a hammer and thinks everything is a nail. Even if "innovative games with cool interfaces" is the right way to educate kids, which is very unlikely to be true, those games aren't going to be spat out by ChatGPT. And if they can be spat out by ChatGPT, why even bother educating most of those kids at all?
  - ThorsBane 4y ago
    education is a lot more than the pipeline for getting skills built up. ChatGPT is a massive pipe that will allow for increase in throughput of information into curious brains for almost no cost. With increasingly more valuable answers over time. And it can already quiz you on math and teach you math. It's amazing. I love it.
    - tablespoon 4y ago
      > ChatGPT is a massive pipe that will allow for increase in throughput of information into curious brains for almost no cost. With increasingly more valuable answers over time. And it can already quiz you on math and teach you math. > It's amazing. I love it. It's pretty clear you're a true believer, who takes the marketing fantasy at face value. But it's still a fantasy. They said the same thing about the web in 1995.
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      - ThorsBane 4y ago
        The web succeeded in its initial mission and is an amazing innovation. I love the Internet. ChatGPT is a massive innovation. Check again in a year lol.
        4y ago
- gl-prod 4y ago
  Students need to learn before being given a tool like that. You have to teach kids math before giving them a calculator. Otherwise, all they know is how to ask for information. Most people learn by doing stuff with their hands, not by reading a paragraph.

ltbarcly3 4y ago

I think you might not have used chatgpt much. In the last year it's gotten much much better, it can do lots of useful things and with 1/1000th the effort of alternative ways of performing the same task. Assuming they can continue to improve it at even a fraction of it's current rate of improvement, even a small fraction, technology like this will be in everything we do and constantly in our ear. It's astoundingly useful and you are wrong here.

ThorsBane 4y ago
well said. chatgpt is awesome. it will free everyone. Related news from earlier: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35364985 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35364985 More family time! And higher quality of education outcomes for very cheap! It's truly the iphone moment for AI including the increasingly cheaper pipelines to train it. I remember how just a couple months ago it was still costing $50k+ to realistically get something resembling GPT-3+ performance. Now that's way less. Wohoo!!! Innovation abounds!!! <3
- croes 4y ago
  The internet is awesome. it will free everyone. Didn't work out. Technology can't correct human flaws. It's always the same error to think it will work, but in the end it's just a reason to reduce funds for education.
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tablespoon 4y ago
>> Leverage ChatGPT so students learn by repetition in innovative games with cool interfaces > It's astoundingly useful and you are wrong here. It may be useful, but I'm not wrong here. Software engineers and the like are too-frequently technology fetishists that are like the proverbial guy who has a hammer and thinks everything is a nail. Even if "innovative games with cool interfaces" is the right way to educate kids, which is very unlikely to be true, those games aren't going to be spat out by ChatGPT. And if they can be spat out by ChatGPT, why even bother educating most of those kids at all?
- ThorsBane 4y ago
  education is a lot more than the pipeline for getting skills built up. ChatGPT is a massive pipe that will allow for increase in throughput of information into curious brains for almost no cost. With increasingly more valuable answers over time. And it can already quiz you on math and teach you math. It's amazing. I love it.
  - tablespoon 4y ago
    > ChatGPT is a massive pipe that will allow for increase in throughput of information into curious brains for almost no cost. With increasingly more valuable answers over time. And it can already quiz you on math and teach you math. > It's amazing. I love it. It's pretty clear you're a true believer, who takes the marketing fantasy at face value. But it's still a fantasy. They said the same thing about the web in 1995.
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    - ThorsBane 4y ago
      The web succeeded in its initial mission and is an amazing innovation. I love the Internet. ChatGPT is a massive innovation. Check again in a year lol.
      - 4y ago
gl-prod 4y ago
Students need to learn before being given a tool like that. You have to teach kids math before giving them a calculator. Otherwise, all they know is how to ask for information. Most people learn by doing stuff with their hands, not by reading a paragraph.