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This is evil. It's like that administration in that one sci-fi dystopia that tried to force everyone to be equal by making everyone wear masks and making the st

This is evil. It's like that administration in that one sci-fi dystopia that tried to force everyone to be equal by making everyone wear masks and making the stronger wear weighted clothing and the smarter wear thought-jamming devices. Increase standards, but also streamline processes. Leverage ChatGPT so students learn by repetition in innovative games with cool interfaces, virtual and 3d and sound/motion interfaces, with lots of gym time. No more identity bullshit besides what is basic to become a good person like it was common to be taught throughout the world like 10 years ago. You know what, fuck this. Pause everything. REWIND. HARD FUCKING FORK on this reality. This is bullshit, I'm rewinding the time. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRpeEdMmmQ0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRpeEdMmmQ0

bitwize 4y ago
The story you are referring to is Harrison Bergeron by Vonnegut.
- ThorsBane 4y ago
  My friend, the only thing I can say to that is: Fuck that shit. We're going back to 2011, I have unfinished business back there. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tg00YEETFzg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tg00YEETFzg Everyone back to 2011 hardcore startup mindset with all the tech conferences w/ free food and great shows and demos, but this time code is still king, none of this talking only bullshit same at every level of compensation in any kind of org. time to earn your keep or be replaced by chatgpt since that'll be the tyranny you fall under if you wanna front tyranny yourself like in Harrison Bergeron like my friend and I are familiar with, you see.
tablespoon 4y ago
> Leverage ChatGPT so students learn by repetition in innovative games with cool interfaces You mean shitty, derivative games that haven't been tested at all? There's no good reason to use ChatGPT in education like that, and doing so is pure technology fetishism.
- ltbarcly3 4y ago
  I think you might not have used chatgpt much. In the last year it's gotten much much better, it can do lots of useful things and with 1/1000th the effort of alternative ways of performing the same task. Assuming they can continue to improve it at even a fraction of it's current rate of improvement, even a small fraction, technology like this will be in everything we do and constantly in our ear. It's astoundingly useful and you are wrong here.
  - ThorsBane 4y ago
    well said. chatgpt is awesome. it will free everyone. Related news from earlier: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35364985 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35364985 More family time! And higher quality of education outcomes for very cheap! It's truly the iphone moment for AI including the increasingly cheaper pipelines to train it. I remember how just a couple months ago it was still costing $50k+ to realistically get something resembling GPT-3+ performance. Now that's way less. Wohoo!!! Innovation abounds!!! <3
    - croes 4y ago
      The internet is awesome. it will free everyone. Didn't work out. Technology can't correct human flaws. It's always the same error to think it will work, but in the end it's just a reason to reduce funds for education.
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  - tablespoon 4y ago
    >> Leverage ChatGPT so students learn by repetition in innovative games with cool interfaces > It's astoundingly useful and you are wrong here. It may be useful, but I'm not wrong here. Software engineers and the like are too-frequently technology fetishists that are like the proverbial guy who has a hammer and thinks everything is a nail. Even if "innovative games with cool interfaces" is the right way to educate kids, which is very unlikely to be true, those games aren't going to be spat out by ChatGPT. And if they can be spat out by ChatGPT, why even bother educating most of those kids at all?
croes 4y ago
You want to increase standards and make all dependent on a new and not battle tested service of one company? This is still the same dystopia and still tries to cover up the underlying problem. You need teachers, lots of of them and well payed.

bitwize 4y ago

The story you are referring to is Harrison Bergeron by Vonnegut.

ThorsBane 4y ago
My friend, the only thing I can say to that is: Fuck that shit. We're going back to 2011, I have unfinished business back there. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tg00YEETFzg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tg00YEETFzg Everyone back to 2011 hardcore startup mindset with all the tech conferences w/ free food and great shows and demos, but this time code is still king, none of this talking only bullshit same at every level of compensation in any kind of org. time to earn your keep or be replaced by chatgpt since that'll be the tyranny you fall under if you wanna front tyranny yourself like in Harrison Bergeron like my friend and I are familiar with, you see.

tablespoon 4y ago

> Leverage ChatGPT so students learn by repetition in innovative games with cool interfaces You mean shitty, derivative games that haven't been tested at all? There's no good reason to use ChatGPT in education like that, and doing so is pure technology fetishism.

ltbarcly3 4y ago
I think you might not have used chatgpt much. In the last year it's gotten much much better, it can do lots of useful things and with 1/1000th the effort of alternative ways of performing the same task. Assuming they can continue to improve it at even a fraction of it's current rate of improvement, even a small fraction, technology like this will be in everything we do and constantly in our ear. It's astoundingly useful and you are wrong here.
- ThorsBane 4y ago
  well said. chatgpt is awesome. it will free everyone. Related news from earlier: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35364985 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35364985 More family time! And higher quality of education outcomes for very cheap! It's truly the iphone moment for AI including the increasingly cheaper pipelines to train it. I remember how just a couple months ago it was still costing $50k+ to realistically get something resembling GPT-3+ performance. Now that's way less. Wohoo!!! Innovation abounds!!! <3
  - croes 4y ago
    The internet is awesome. it will free everyone. Didn't work out. Technology can't correct human flaws. It's always the same error to think it will work, but in the end it's just a reason to reduce funds for education.
    - deleted 4y ago
      [deleted]
- tablespoon 4y ago
  >> Leverage ChatGPT so students learn by repetition in innovative games with cool interfaces > It's astoundingly useful and you are wrong here. It may be useful, but I'm not wrong here. Software engineers and the like are too-frequently technology fetishists that are like the proverbial guy who has a hammer and thinks everything is a nail. Even if "innovative games with cool interfaces" is the right way to educate kids, which is very unlikely to be true, those games aren't going to be spat out by ChatGPT. And if they can be spat out by ChatGPT, why even bother educating most of those kids at all?

croes 4y ago

You want to increase standards and make all dependent on a new and not battle tested service of one company? This is still the same dystopia and still tries to cover up the underlying problem. You need teachers, lots of of them and well payed.