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Not parent, but I am relatively certain you can't just kill US citizen with a wave of a hand ( not legally that is[1]). Obama did just that. [1]https://en.wiki

Not parent, but I am relatively certain you can't just kill US citizen with a wave of a hand ( not legally that is[1]). Obama did just that. [1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Abdulrahman_al-Awlaki https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Abdulrahman_al-Awla...

anonymouskimmer 4y ago
The argument that this is legal was from Bush Jr's office: https://thenewamerican.com/cia-has-program-to-assassinate-us-citizens/ https://thenewamerican.com/cia-has-program-to-assassinate-us... Your Wikipedia link makes it seem like an honest mistake. Which would not be a crime, though could have civil penalties if government immunity wasn't involved.
- A4ET8a8uTh0 4y ago
  Unless I am misreading it, the link you provided makes it sound even worse than, by comparison, benign Wiki article: << The Bush administration had made a point of claiming unlimited power under the << “the Obama administration has adopted the same stance.” I am aware of the theory about 'imperial presidency', but I think we can agree that US president does not actually have unlimited power. << our Wikipedia link makes it seem like an honest mistake. Yeah. Funny how the president did not address it himself, but instead we have mere 'leaks' to speculate on. << Which would not be a crime, though could have civil penalties if government immunity wasn't involved. No. Factually wrong. It would be a crime were government immunity not involved. If you kill a person in US by a sheer stroke of bad fortune, you may still end up being convicted for a crime ( involuntary manslaughter ). Naturally, this being government makes it fairly complicated, because the actual responsibility is spread across many decision centers, but, as the saying goes, 'the buck stops here' so one would think that if it was a.. mistake, it would be addressed as such and not quietly forgotten and dismissed.

anonymouskimmer 4y ago

The argument that this is legal was from Bush Jr's office: https://thenewamerican.com/cia-has-program-to-assassinate-us-citizens/ https://thenewamerican.com/cia-has-program-to-assassinate-us... Your Wikipedia link makes it seem like an honest mistake. Which would not be a crime, though could have civil penalties if government immunity wasn't involved.

A4ET8a8uTh0 4y ago
Unless I am misreading it, the link you provided makes it sound even worse than, by comparison, benign Wiki article: << The Bush administration had made a point of claiming unlimited power under the << “the Obama administration has adopted the same stance.” I am aware of the theory about 'imperial presidency', but I think we can agree that US president does not actually have unlimited power. << our Wikipedia link makes it seem like an honest mistake. Yeah. Funny how the president did not address it himself, but instead we have mere 'leaks' to speculate on. << Which would not be a crime, though could have civil penalties if government immunity wasn't involved. No. Factually wrong. It would be a crime were government immunity not involved. If you kill a person in US by a sheer stroke of bad fortune, you may still end up being convicted for a crime ( involuntary manslaughter ). Naturally, this being government makes it fairly complicated, because the actual responsibility is spread across many decision centers, but, as the saying goes, 'the buck stops here' so one would think that if it was a.. mistake, it would be addressed as such and not quietly forgotten and dismissed.