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OpenBSD is the most hassle free personal computing experience I can think of. My (now outdated, maybe) experiences with Linux involved: 1. Installing a user-fr

OpenBSD is the most hassle free personal computing experience I can think of. My (now outdated, maybe) experiences with Linux involved: 1. Installing a user-friendly distro and scraping layer after layer of cruft off it until it finally performed acceptably. 2. Installing a cool minimalist distro and spending hours pasting commands from a wiki to build a brittle rice rocket OS that would explode if I sneezed at it. I was shocked by how little configuration OpenBSD required in comparison. I always assumed it was some Gentoo tier wank given its elitist reputation. All the defaults were sensible. I just installed my favorite packages and went about life. The same isn't true for FreeBSD of course.

__turbobrew__ 4y ago
I could never figure out high dpi in openbsd and eventually gave up. For headless installs openbsd works great for me.
- LeFantome 4y ago
  Headless desktops?
  - shmde 4y ago
    Desktops without screens and monitors. /s
kitsunesoba 4y ago
That brittleness aspect of minimal Linux setups is one of the reasons why when using Linux I just go with a full fat DE. It’s distracting and unproductive when it feels like your desktop setup is built upon glass stilts as a result of being so duct-taped together.
- alyandon 4y ago
  Yeah - generally speaking these days if I'm setting up a "desktop" running Linux it 99% likely going to be Kubuntu (with snapd purged and Firefox installed from the Mozilla Team PPA).
MuffinFlavored 4y ago
> OpenBSD is the most hassle free personal computing experience I can think of if this statement were true, wouldn’t less people use Mac OS X and instead use OpenBSD? Mac OS X is hassle free you buy the laptop, you open it, it works
- GianFabien 4y ago
  Apple Macs only work as soon as you unbox them because Apple controls both the hardware and software. If you go an buy some random laptop, then installing Linux or Free/Net/Open-BSD yields unpredictable results. The only reason that Linux works in more cases than the BSDs is due to the far greater number of device drivers. Here's an idea for the AI experts, give a Linux device driver to your AI and ask it to produce a compatible, bug free BSD driver.
  - pjmlp 4y ago
    Unfortunely not even pre-installed GNU/Linux is headache free, e.g. my experience with Asus 1215B.
    - doubled112 4y ago
      Not even Windows is headache free. I have an Asus where the NVMe causes a BSOD every third startup or so. Passes all the hardware diag I’ve done. No crashes for years using various Linux distros. I lucked out this time. They (my wife and I bought two) were purchased in a panic when we had covid because we realized we did not have enough computers for the kids to do online school.
  - musicale 4y ago
    > Apple Macs only work as soon as you unbox them because Apple controls both the hardware and software Yeah, there's something to be said for hardware-software co-design. I think Alan Kay said something like "People who are really serious about software should make their own hardware."

__turbobrew__ 4y ago

I could never figure out high dpi in openbsd and eventually gave up. For headless installs openbsd works great for me.

LeFantome 4y ago
Headless desktops?
- shmde 4y ago
  Desktops without screens and monitors. /s

kitsunesoba 4y ago

That brittleness aspect of minimal Linux setups is one of the reasons why when using Linux I just go with a full fat DE. It’s distracting and unproductive when it feels like your desktop setup is built upon glass stilts as a result of being so duct-taped together.

alyandon 4y ago
Yeah - generally speaking these days if I'm setting up a "desktop" running Linux it 99% likely going to be Kubuntu (with snapd purged and Firefox installed from the Mozilla Team PPA).

MuffinFlavored 4y ago

> OpenBSD is the most hassle free personal computing experience I can think of if this statement were true, wouldn’t less people use Mac OS X and instead use OpenBSD? Mac OS X is hassle free you buy the laptop, you open it, it works

GianFabien 4y ago
Apple Macs only work as soon as you unbox them because Apple controls both the hardware and software. If you go an buy some random laptop, then installing Linux or Free/Net/Open-BSD yields unpredictable results. The only reason that Linux works in more cases than the BSDs is due to the far greater number of device drivers. Here's an idea for the AI experts, give a Linux device driver to your AI and ask it to produce a compatible, bug free BSD driver.
- pjmlp 4y ago
  Unfortunely not even pre-installed GNU/Linux is headache free, e.g. my experience with Asus 1215B.
  - doubled112 4y ago
    Not even Windows is headache free. I have an Asus where the NVMe causes a BSOD every third startup or so. Passes all the hardware diag I’ve done. No crashes for years using various Linux distros. I lucked out this time. They (my wife and I bought two) were purchased in a panic when we had covid because we realized we did not have enough computers for the kids to do online school.
- musicale 4y ago
  > Apple Macs only work as soon as you unbox them because Apple controls both the hardware and software Yeah, there's something to be said for hardware-software co-design. I think Alan Kay said something like "People who are really serious about software should make their own hardware."