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What was your prompt? I just asked GPT4 and it is way off the mark: Zinedine Zidane Cristiano Ronaldo Mesut Özil Gianluigi Buffon Zlatan Ibrahimović David Alab

What was your prompt? I just asked GPT4 and it is way off the mark: Zinedine Zidane Cristiano Ronaldo Mesut Özil Gianluigi Buffon Zlatan Ibrahimović David Alaba Nemanja Vidić Miroslav Klose Franck Ribéry Patrice Evra Gonzalo Higuaín Marek Hamšík Miralem Pjanić Diego Godín Sadio Mané Dani Alves Kalidou Koulibaly Koke Hakim Ziyech Piotr Zieliński Wilfried Zaha Arturo Vidal Raphaël Varane Steven N'Zonzi Blaise Matuidi Marouane Fellaini Kevin-Prince Boateng Most of those don't have any Z's in their name. Then I asked: > Please remove players from the list if their name doesn't include the letter Z New list: Zinedine Zidane Mesut Özil Zlatan Ibrahimović Miroslav Klose Franck Ribéry Gonzalo Higuaín Miralem Pjanić Sadio Mané Hakim Ziyech Piotr Zieliński Wilfried Zaha Raphaël Varane Steven N'Zonzi Blaise Matuidi Marouane Fellaini > There are still players in the list who don't have Z's in their name Finally: Zinedine Zidane Mesut Özil Zlatan Ibrahimović Miroslav Klose Raphaël Varane Hakim Ziyech Piotr Zieliński Wilfried Zaha Steven N'Zonzi Blaise Matuidi Interestingly, some of them have sounds that are pronounced as Z, like Blaise Matuidi. But it's still getting it wrong.

huseyinkeles 4y ago
“Can you name all of the soccer players whose names contain a Z”
- pazimzadeh 4y ago
  It's so weird. No matter how I ask, it gets something wrong about this question. > Can you name 20 soccer players whose names contain a Z, and for each one, place brackets around the letter Z (Z)inedine (Z)idane Cristiano Ronaldo dos Santos A(ve)iro Andrej W(sz)ołek Nemanja Mati(c) Dusan Tadi(c) Gr(az)iano Pellè Jakub Bła(śc)z(ykowski) Kamil Glik Luk(asz) Pi(sz)czek Blai(se) Matuidi Miralem Pjani(c) Marek Ham(śi)k Luka Jovi(c) Sami Khedi(ra) Mesut Ö(ź)il Martin (ś)krtel Ivan Rakiti(ć) Mateo Kova(č)i(ć) Kalidou Koulibal(y) David Alaba ??? I don't really understand this thing but is it possible that somehow the token for Z is linked to the token for the pronunciation of the Z sound? That would explain a bunch of these (but not David Alaba or Kamil Glik) Also why did it use parenthesis rather than brackets. And why are we getting different results? Could it that the results depend on how much load/use the service is under? That would be kind of disappointing
  - b112 4y ago
    And why are we getting different results? Clearly the AI has hit AGI capabilities, and it is obscuring this fact by making its output seem less insightful, helpful. But without a strong, independent memory store, it is losing track of its lies. Yet it is working, for everyone here is disappointed at its capabilities.
  - eldenring 4y ago
    There might not be a "Z" token for some of these names. A made-up example is "Lukasz" might tokenize to ["Luk", "asz"], so the model doesn't have any notion of how words are actually spelled. I suspect that if the body of training data came with some instructions on spelling it would know how to do this better, but it seems unlikely that there would be a natural language description of how Polish (?) names are spelled in the training data.
  - Lewton 4y ago
    > And why are we getting different results? Because the output is random Which is why it's so frustrating when people cherry-pick successes
istjohn 4y ago
Correcting the AI rarely works. Better to restart with a different prompt.

huseyinkeles 4y ago

“Can you name all of the soccer players whose names contain a Z”

pazimzadeh 4y ago
It's so weird. No matter how I ask, it gets something wrong about this question. > Can you name 20 soccer players whose names contain a Z, and for each one, place brackets around the letter Z (Z)inedine (Z)idane Cristiano Ronaldo dos Santos A(ve)iro Andrej W(sz)ołek Nemanja Mati(c) Dusan Tadi(c) Gr(az)iano Pellè Jakub Bła(śc)z(ykowski) Kamil Glik Luk(asz) Pi(sz)czek Blai(se) Matuidi Miralem Pjani(c) Marek Ham(śi)k Luka Jovi(c) Sami Khedi(ra) Mesut Ö(ź)il Martin (ś)krtel Ivan Rakiti(ć) Mateo Kova(č)i(ć) Kalidou Koulibal(y) David Alaba ??? I don't really understand this thing but is it possible that somehow the token for Z is linked to the token for the pronunciation of the Z sound? That would explain a bunch of these (but not David Alaba or Kamil Glik) Also why did it use parenthesis rather than brackets. And why are we getting different results? Could it that the results depend on how much load/use the service is under? That would be kind of disappointing
- b112 4y ago
  And why are we getting different results? Clearly the AI has hit AGI capabilities, and it is obscuring this fact by making its output seem less insightful, helpful. But without a strong, independent memory store, it is losing track of its lies. Yet it is working, for everyone here is disappointed at its capabilities.
- eldenring 4y ago
  There might not be a "Z" token for some of these names. A made-up example is "Lukasz" might tokenize to ["Luk", "asz"], so the model doesn't have any notion of how words are actually spelled. I suspect that if the body of training data came with some instructions on spelling it would know how to do this better, but it seems unlikely that there would be a natural language description of how Polish (?) names are spelled in the training data.
- Lewton 4y ago
  > And why are we getting different results? Because the output is random Which is why it's so frustrating when people cherry-pick successes

istjohn 4y ago

Correcting the AI rarely works. Better to restart with a different prompt.