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So youre telling me, all I need to do to get a seat on the San Jose California Police Union, is to not frame my housekeeper for my illegal drug smuggling empire

So youre telling me, all I need to do to get a seat on the San Jose California Police Union, is to not frame my housekeeper for my illegal drug smuggling empire, which certainly NEVER involved any of the upstanding cops in the actual police dept? - My father was a cop in Oakland in the '70s... He resigned after he witnessed OPD murder several people. His famous quote was "Once you're looking for 'bad' everywhere - pretty soon, thats all you can see'" -- When I grew up in the 80s in Lake Tahoe (we moved from Oakland to Tahoe in 1979) -- the cops were known to have been outcasts from San Jose CA for being the worst offenders, and were pushed back to Tahoe as 'punishment' (in the same way that Catholic priests are 'punished')... We knew that the Tahoe cops were jerks, and it was widely known they were all San Jose rejects... Anyway, I got caught in a bit of legal trouble in 7th grade (was taking boats out for joy rides and leaving them on beaches)... And the 'detective' who found me was later found out as being on Escobar's pay roll.... In the 1980s, Escobar was flying in tons of cocaine to truckee and south lake tahoe, and this cop, and the dad of a kid I went to school with were the guys who were funneling all that coke to Vegas and Reno...

mistrial9 4y ago
interesting -- an old man that built Casinos and lived in .. Sparks.. had a son who was a good-enough skier and definitely local to Tahoe in the 80s. The son had an "ad agency" which turned out to be a front for this activity. "You have to make a thousand a day" he was rumored to say.. that means a thousand in your pocket each day in good times, or just cash moving when things are slow. What you say about Escobar and local flights, that fits. Miami Vice was a TV show at that time, not entirely fictional!
anigbrowl 4y ago
That's interesting, didn't know you were from Oakland. You might also want to read this other bit of local news that surfaced earlier this week. https://oaklandside.org/2023/03/27/murder-conviction-overturned-oakland-police-charles-butler-giovonte-douglas-witness-false-testimony/ https://oaklandside.org/2023/03/27/murder-conviction-overtur...
- samstave 4y ago
  Yeah... and I am ashamed that I helped architect OPD's goveCloud deployment...
inferiorhuman 4y ago
OPD is… not great. Twenty years on and they're still under federal receivership.
- phkahler 4y ago
  That adds another level...
dsfyu404ed 4y ago
I'd rather live in a town with cops that are busy running a coke smuggling operation than live in a town with bored cops.
- iancmceachern 4y ago
  This is the plot of quite a few comedies...
  - smcin 4y ago
    ... and several Carl Hiaasen novels
- lazide 4y ago
  Depends. Which one would you rather bump into at 2am when ‘no one is supposed to be out’?
  - notjulianjaynes 4y ago
    I've been pulled over for minor traffic infractions almost exclusively by bored cops in rural or college towns, and I live next to a city who's narcotics division is presently being sued by the US DOJ. I'm white though.
    - lazide 4y ago
      Pulled over != shaken down or shot to remove witnesses, is I guess what I’m hinting at. A department with bored, but honest, cops will be pretty safe - and stay boring. Albeit with annoyances like traffic rules being enforced. A department with criminals running it will do what the criminals need, including murdering whoever they need to. If they’re smart, maybe it means the other criminals steer clear?
pyuser583 4y ago
I live in city with a pretty squeaky clean police department. They are extremely paranoid when hiring - especially “experienced” officers who often turn out to be rejects. Recently the BLM folks were able to get a big say in police hiring. They’ve been demanding more Black officers. It’s hard to get any officers at all, and the city doesn’t have many Black residents. So they’ve been pushing to change the rules about hiring officers with “previous experience” - basically turning “previous experience” from a negative to a positive.
- orangepurple 4y ago
  > They are extremely paranoid when hiring - especially “experienced” officers who often turn out to be rejects. > So they’ve been pushing to change the rules about hiring officers with “previous experience” - basically turning “previous experience” from a negative to a positive. It's crazy. You can ignore reality, but you can't ignore the consequences of reality.
  - lazide 4y ago
    You’d be surprised - if you can find the right scapegoats, folks can even do that for a long time!
steve76 4y ago
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mistrial9 4y ago

interesting -- an old man that built Casinos and lived in .. Sparks.. had a son who was a good-enough skier and definitely local to Tahoe in the 80s. The son had an "ad agency" which turned out to be a front for this activity. "You have to make a thousand a day" he was rumored to say.. that means a thousand in your pocket each day in good times, or just cash moving when things are slow. What you say about Escobar and local flights, that fits. Miami Vice was a TV show at that time, not entirely fictional!

anigbrowl 4y ago

That's interesting, didn't know you were from Oakland. You might also want to read this other bit of local news that surfaced earlier this week. https://oaklandside.org/2023/03/27/murder-conviction-overturned-oakland-police-charles-butler-giovonte-douglas-witness-false-testimony/ https://oaklandside.org/2023/03/27/murder-conviction-overtur...

samstave 4y ago
Yeah... and I am ashamed that I helped architect OPD's goveCloud deployment...

inferiorhuman 4y ago

OPD is… not great. Twenty years on and they're still under federal receivership.

phkahler 4y ago
That adds another level...

dsfyu404ed 4y ago

I'd rather live in a town with cops that are busy running a coke smuggling operation than live in a town with bored cops.

iancmceachern 4y ago
This is the plot of quite a few comedies...
- smcin 4y ago
  ... and several Carl Hiaasen novels
lazide 4y ago
Depends. Which one would you rather bump into at 2am when ‘no one is supposed to be out’?
- notjulianjaynes 4y ago
  I've been pulled over for minor traffic infractions almost exclusively by bored cops in rural or college towns, and I live next to a city who's narcotics division is presently being sued by the US DOJ. I'm white though.
  - lazide 4y ago
    Pulled over != shaken down or shot to remove witnesses, is I guess what I’m hinting at. A department with bored, but honest, cops will be pretty safe - and stay boring. Albeit with annoyances like traffic rules being enforced. A department with criminals running it will do what the criminals need, including murdering whoever they need to. If they’re smart, maybe it means the other criminals steer clear?

pyuser583 4y ago

I live in city with a pretty squeaky clean police department. They are extremely paranoid when hiring - especially “experienced” officers who often turn out to be rejects. Recently the BLM folks were able to get a big say in police hiring. They’ve been demanding more Black officers. It’s hard to get any officers at all, and the city doesn’t have many Black residents. So they’ve been pushing to change the rules about hiring officers with “previous experience” - basically turning “previous experience” from a negative to a positive.

orangepurple 4y ago
> They are extremely paranoid when hiring - especially “experienced” officers who often turn out to be rejects. > So they’ve been pushing to change the rules about hiring officers with “previous experience” - basically turning “previous experience” from a negative to a positive. It's crazy. You can ignore reality, but you can't ignore the consequences of reality.
- lazide 4y ago
  You’d be surprised - if you can find the right scapegoats, folks can even do that for a long time!

steve76 4y ago

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