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I was first introduced to Linux with Ubuntu around 2009 - 2010. I used it up until 2014 or so, then toured my way around Windows and Mac OS. I'm currently on a

I was first introduced to Linux with Ubuntu around 2009 - 2010. I used it up until 2014 or so, then toured my way around Windows and Mac OS. I'm currently on a Mac, but at a past job I had to boot straight into a Linux VM, and Fedora was fantastic. I always hear how Ubuntu nowadays makes a lot of questionable decisions, how Snaps are bad, and so on. I also hear a lot of criticism about Flatpak. But Fedora 36 more or less "just worked". I disliked GNOME 3, but the GNOME 40 interface is a huge improvement. I also like how Fedora is able to just get out of my way. There are no quirks added to the desktop environment besides a little Fedora watermark. Flatpaks more or less "just works" for me, and I can hardly tell the difference between Flatpaks and "native packages" on GNOME Software. They both are one click, enter password, wait, then ready. DNF is slow as molasses, though, but otherwise Fedora was straightforward to install and use daily for development. I'm very likely going to run Fedora on a Framework 16 when the time comes to replace my MacBook.

grumpyprole 4y ago
Ubuntu offer an LTS distro though. In theory this should be more stable than Fedora. Perhaps it matters less for the desktop.
- mixedCase 4y ago
  On the desktop, newer kernel usually means more stable, although it becomes less true as the hardware running it ages.
- ladyanita22 4y ago
  On the Fedora side you can have CentOS Stream
  - spicyusername 4y ago
    That is the exact opposite of LTS. CentOS-stream is a rolling release beta version of the next RHEL.
    - flanked-evergl 4y ago
      It is not rolling release in the sense that any distro that uses that phrase to describe itself is, and it is not a beta version either. Centos stream has versions, and it does not automatically switch from one to the other. This is no different from Ubuntu LTS. And I don't think their QA is any worse than that of Ubuntu. Ask yourself this, by your definition, what would CentOS stream have to change to no longer be rolling release, and what would Ubuntu LTS have to change to become rolling release? Then ask yourself the same question about the beta point, what would CentOS steam have to change to no longer be beta and what would Ubuntu LTS have to change to become a beta?
- paulryanrogers 4y ago
  Rocky Linux is a rebrand of RHEL which is essentially the LTS that Fedora feeds into.
dmckeon 4y ago
> DNF is slow as molasses Run dnf with -C / --cacheonly unless you need package metadata that is fresher than your coffee. Much speedier. The fastestmirror setting may help, but unfortunately is based on ping time rather than download time, so results there will vary. A new version of DNF is in beta, to be available in Fedora 38, and be the default in Fedora 39, IIRC.
indigodaddy 4y ago
dnf is a prized racehorse though compared to yum. Not sure if that is a python3 vs 2 thing, or a RHEL 8 vs 7 thing, but it’s much, much faster.
sgtnasty 4y ago
This is what helps speed up `dnf`; edit `/etc/dnf/dnf.conf` ``` echo 'fastestmirror=1' | sudo tee -a /etc/dnf/dnf.conf echo 'max_parallel_downloads=10' | sudo tee -a /etc/dnf/dnf.conf echo 'deltarpm=true' | sudo tee -a /etc/dnf/dnf.conf ```

grumpyprole 4y ago

Ubuntu offer an LTS distro though. In theory this should be more stable than Fedora. Perhaps it matters less for the desktop.

mixedCase 4y ago
On the desktop, newer kernel usually means more stable, although it becomes less true as the hardware running it ages.
ladyanita22 4y ago
On the Fedora side you can have CentOS Stream
- spicyusername 4y ago
  That is the exact opposite of LTS. CentOS-stream is a rolling release beta version of the next RHEL.
  - flanked-evergl 4y ago
    It is not rolling release in the sense that any distro that uses that phrase to describe itself is, and it is not a beta version either. Centos stream has versions, and it does not automatically switch from one to the other. This is no different from Ubuntu LTS. And I don't think their QA is any worse than that of Ubuntu. Ask yourself this, by your definition, what would CentOS stream have to change to no longer be rolling release, and what would Ubuntu LTS have to change to become rolling release? Then ask yourself the same question about the beta point, what would CentOS steam have to change to no longer be beta and what would Ubuntu LTS have to change to become a beta?
paulryanrogers 4y ago
Rocky Linux is a rebrand of RHEL which is essentially the LTS that Fedora feeds into.

dmckeon 4y ago

> DNF is slow as molasses Run dnf with -C / --cacheonly unless you need package metadata that is fresher than your coffee. Much speedier. The fastestmirror setting may help, but unfortunately is based on ping time rather than download time, so results there will vary. A new version of DNF is in beta, to be available in Fedora 38, and be the default in Fedora 39, IIRC.

indigodaddy 4y ago

dnf is a prized racehorse though compared to yum. Not sure if that is a python3 vs 2 thing, or a RHEL 8 vs 7 thing, but it’s much, much faster.

sgtnasty 4y ago

This is what helps speed up `dnf`; edit `/etc/dnf/dnf.conf` ``` echo 'fastestmirror=1' | sudo tee -a /etc/dnf/dnf.conf echo 'max_parallel_downloads=10' | sudo tee -a /etc/dnf/dnf.conf echo 'deltarpm=true' | sudo tee -a /etc/dnf/dnf.conf ```