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Is this host trustworthy ? Feature wise it seems too good to be true: Intel® Core™ i7-2600 Quadcore incl. Hyper-Threading Technology RAM 32 GB DDR3 RAM

by meow 15y ago

Is this host trustworthy ? Feature wise it seems too good to be true: Intel® Core™ i7-2600 Quadcore incl. Hyper-Threading Technology RAM 32 GB DDR3 RAM Hard disks 2 x 3 TB SATA 6 Gb/s HDD 7200 rpm (Software-RAID 1) NIC 1 GBit OnBoard connected at 100 MBit Backup Space 100 GB Traffic Unlimited*

alexro 15y ago
I know many people who recommend it
Intermediate 15y ago
Yep, it's a well known german datacenter.
davidw 15y ago
They've been around for a while, and are fairly well known.
samarudge 15y ago
They are one of the largest hosts in Europe (~50k dedicated servers if I remember correctly). Large doesn't always mean best, though. Similar to OVH, they provide good hardware, reliability and a decent enough network, but if anything goes wrong you best know how to fix it yourself. I also believe their network isn't /as/ good as somewhere like Rackspace however with CDN's etc. that's probably not as much of an issue. TL;DR; Yes they're trustworthy, generally speaking
- pors 15y ago
  How do CDN's solve bad connectivity of your app server?
  - samarudge 15y ago
    They have no issues with connectivity, they might have higher latency and lower bandwidth than some of the higher end providers. But since +90% of the data transfer on most sites is static assets, using a CDN to distribute those will reduce the bandwidth requirements on the server. Of course, if you're working on a larger project with enough budget, services like Akamai provide methods of routing your static content via their network, further reducing the problem.
- tluyben2 15y ago
  OVH definitely does not provide good hardware; we have more broken disks and NICs there than all our other hosters combined. Edit: I see we might be exceptions. We have been using OVH since 2005, running up to 40 servers about 2 years ago. We are also running at iWeb, Softlayer, Amazon and Leaseweb. Hardware wise the only one we have issues with is OVH, and i'm talking every 2 weeks since 2005 (in 2006 they managed to lose all our data on 2 clustered RAID machines; one died, all corrupted, then when we were busy setting up the replacement, the other one died...). But they are so cheap and easy (like the easy OS installation which is cloud-like, already for many years) we stick with them for some projects which need high spec hardware in clusters. Note: the SSD drives are great, no problems with those so far (knock on wood).
  - samarudge 15y ago
    Really? I guess you're experience differs from mine. Currently we have 5 servers with OVH (Ranging from high to low end) and have never had a single hardware issue. We've had 4 of these servers for +18 months and 1 for +2 years with no issues at all. That being said, they're not exactly known for their fast response times to support calls although I believe they have a 2hr SLA for critical hardware failures. I guess it's just down to experiences though, I have all our high-profile servers/apps with UK2 or LiquidWeb.
  - _Lemon_ 15y ago
    OVH put brand new disks in every server sold. They also do remarkably well: out of the thousands I've had from Leaseweb and OVH, OVH wins hands down.
  - NARKOZ 15y ago
    Strange to hear that about OVH. I use them since 2010 and never had a hardware issue yet.
  - mst 15y ago
    Somebody always has a bad experience with any given company. What I keep wondering about is how to effectively get the collective knowledge out there to figure out whether you're the exception or the rule. I sort of wish hosting companies would publish the hardware failure rates -as seen by them- too - though I don't know how much of a competitive advantage that would be, if any.
matthewcford 15y ago
It's where we host all of our staging servers for client apps now, pretty good value if you ask me.
lusr 15y ago
I've used them for the past year with zero issues, but I then I haven't done anything too hardcore. Network is excellent although I've noticed one site (oron.com) cannot be routed to - haven't bothered figuring out if maybe this is because it's Germany and there's a block, or if there's something else going on. I've also been impressed with their server management tools (web-based VKVM access, you can boot into a rescue system if required, etc.).
ergo14 15y ago
Traffic is limited ie. they cap you too 10mbit after you exceed 10TB, (you can buy more uncapped traffic ofc.) And yes the "host" is a very big datacenter, I have one server with them for 3 years, with pretty good uptime. 2-3 outages on their end over last 3 years. You need to remember that you need to buy additional packages for hardware raid or failover that will cost you about 20-30 EUR - if you need them, still it's one of best offers out there and def. best in Europe price wise.
- lusr 15y ago
  Interestingly, the 10TB only applies to outgoing traffic. For most people this probably isn't that important but for my current project it's great because the bulk of my bandwidth will be users uploading data and/or me fetching that data on their behalf.
  - gizzlon 15y ago
    AFAIK it's pretty normal, at least outside of cloud computing, that incoming traffic is cheap or free.
  - guan 15y ago
    Incoming traffic to AWS is also free.
    - ergo14 15y ago
      On a sidenote: AWS is way more expensive than dedis in every calculation I make for my business.
Loic 15y ago
I used to live 3 km from their datacenters here: http://www.datacenterpark.de/ http://www.datacenterpark.de/ Basically in the former East Germany. They are doing things the right way. I am not hosting with them at the moment, but I have been for a couple of years without issues. You must also know that the EU paid some good money to get the datacenters there as part of economical development initiatives. Hetzner is operating since 1997.
rsynnott 15y ago
In general, I've had nothing but good experiences with them. They're reasonably bare-bones, though; don't expect miracles in terms of support.

by meow 15y ago

alexro 15y ago

I know many people who recommend it

Intermediate 15y ago

Yep, it's a well known german datacenter.

davidw 15y ago

They've been around for a while, and are fairly well known.

samarudge 15y ago

They are one of the largest hosts in Europe (~50k dedicated servers if I remember correctly). Large doesn't always mean best, though. Similar to OVH, they provide good hardware, reliability and a decent enough network, but if anything goes wrong you best know how to fix it yourself. I also believe their network isn't /as/ good as somewhere like Rackspace however with CDN's etc. that's probably not as much of an issue. TL;DR; Yes they're trustworthy, generally speaking

pors 15y ago
How do CDN's solve bad connectivity of your app server?
- samarudge 15y ago
  They have no issues with connectivity, they might have higher latency and lower bandwidth than some of the higher end providers. But since +90% of the data transfer on most sites is static assets, using a CDN to distribute those will reduce the bandwidth requirements on the server. Of course, if you're working on a larger project with enough budget, services like Akamai provide methods of routing your static content via their network, further reducing the problem.
tluyben2 15y ago
OVH definitely does not provide good hardware; we have more broken disks and NICs there than all our other hosters combined. Edit: I see we might be exceptions. We have been using OVH since 2005, running up to 40 servers about 2 years ago. We are also running at iWeb, Softlayer, Amazon and Leaseweb. Hardware wise the only one we have issues with is OVH, and i'm talking every 2 weeks since 2005 (in 2006 they managed to lose all our data on 2 clustered RAID machines; one died, all corrupted, then when we were busy setting up the replacement, the other one died...). But they are so cheap and easy (like the easy OS installation which is cloud-like, already for many years) we stick with them for some projects which need high spec hardware in clusters. Note: the SSD drives are great, no problems with those so far (knock on wood).
- samarudge 15y ago
  Really? I guess you're experience differs from mine. Currently we have 5 servers with OVH (Ranging from high to low end) and have never had a single hardware issue. We've had 4 of these servers for +18 months and 1 for +2 years with no issues at all. That being said, they're not exactly known for their fast response times to support calls although I believe they have a 2hr SLA for critical hardware failures. I guess it's just down to experiences though, I have all our high-profile servers/apps with UK2 or LiquidWeb.
- _Lemon_ 15y ago
  OVH put brand new disks in every server sold. They also do remarkably well: out of the thousands I've had from Leaseweb and OVH, OVH wins hands down.
- NARKOZ 15y ago
  Strange to hear that about OVH. I use them since 2010 and never had a hardware issue yet.
- mst 15y ago
  Somebody always has a bad experience with any given company. What I keep wondering about is how to effectively get the collective knowledge out there to figure out whether you're the exception or the rule. I sort of wish hosting companies would publish the hardware failure rates -as seen by them- too - though I don't know how much of a competitive advantage that would be, if any.

matthewcford 15y ago

It's where we host all of our staging servers for client apps now, pretty good value if you ask me.

lusr 15y ago

I've used them for the past year with zero issues, but I then I haven't done anything too hardcore. Network is excellent although I've noticed one site (oron.com) cannot be routed to - haven't bothered figuring out if maybe this is because it's Germany and there's a block, or if there's something else going on. I've also been impressed with their server management tools (web-based VKVM access, you can boot into a rescue system if required, etc.).

ergo14 15y ago

Traffic is limited ie. they cap you too 10mbit after you exceed 10TB, (you can buy more uncapped traffic ofc.) And yes the "host" is a very big datacenter, I have one server with them for 3 years, with pretty good uptime. 2-3 outages on their end over last 3 years. You need to remember that you need to buy additional packages for hardware raid or failover that will cost you about 20-30 EUR - if you need them, still it's one of best offers out there and def. best in Europe price wise.

lusr 15y ago
Interestingly, the 10TB only applies to outgoing traffic. For most people this probably isn't that important but for my current project it's great because the bulk of my bandwidth will be users uploading data and/or me fetching that data on their behalf.
- gizzlon 15y ago
  AFAIK it's pretty normal, at least outside of cloud computing, that incoming traffic is cheap or free.
- guan 15y ago
  Incoming traffic to AWS is also free.
  - ergo14 15y ago
    On a sidenote: AWS is way more expensive than dedis in every calculation I make for my business.

Loic 15y ago

I used to live 3 km from their datacenters here: http://www.datacenterpark.de/ http://www.datacenterpark.de/ Basically in the former East Germany. They are doing things the right way. I am not hosting with them at the moment, but I have been for a couple of years without issues. You must also know that the EU paid some good money to get the datacenters there as part of economical development initiatives. Hetzner is operating since 1997.

rsynnott 15y ago

In general, I've had nothing but good experiences with them. They're reasonably bare-bones, though; don't expect miracles in terms of support.