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> Had enough of Android? Replace it with a barely working unsecure ecosystems linux distro with effectively 0 adaption. Oh and youll still need an Android Phone

by dtx1 4y ago

> Had enough of Android? Replace it with a barely working unsecure ecosystems linux distro with effectively 0 adaption. Oh and youll still need an Android Phone for you messengers, bank accounts, ... FTFY

hdhrufjdi 4y ago
You don't need an Android phone for messengers. Just get Beeper and a Linux Matrix Client and you can communicate with iMessage, Telegram and WhatsApp users without having an Android phone My bank account works in the Browser
- clircle 4y ago
  > My bank account works in the Browser Sounds like pure hell on mobile.
  - hdhrufjdi 4y ago
    It isn't though. What fits into a app screen of a phone also fits into a browser screen on a phone
    - helf 4y ago
      [dead]
    - CoolCold 4y ago
      how your bank's push notifications work without native app? Recently I see there is fingerprint support in browsers on Android, but AFAIK it's quite new - have you had to enter password each time?
      - toast0 4y ago
        Webpush is a thing? But I don't get push notifications from my bank, so I don't know what I would be missing? Also, not everyone is willing to use fingerprints, so there's that too.
        CoolCold 4y ago
        I'm interested in technical possibility, so I can understand utility limits/options. Willing or unwilling is per person and bit different question which is out of my interest for now.
- pleb_nz 4y ago
  Bank App, NFC bank card payments? Tap and pay or paywave are the best thing to happen in mobile IMO. I don't even carry a wallet anymore. I had having to carry a phone and wallet. Now it's back down to only have to carry one thing. Perfect
  - adql 4y ago
    I don't trust phone security enough to do that.
    - pleb_nz 4y ago
      It's the same as having a credit card for web orders that has a lower limit, you load the same card into the phone...
  - yjftsjthsd-h 4y ago
    > I don't even carry a wallet anymore. That is a lot of faith in the technology. You don't worry about a dead battery? Cracked screen? Phone getting stolen out of your hand in the subway?
    - helf 4y ago
      [dead]
    - pleb_nz 4y ago
      Home is never far away. If something like that happened 99.9% of things can wait until I've been home to collect my wallet. Just as much chance if me loosing my wallet as most of the things you mentioned.
phh 4y ago
People already largely answered on many points, but I'll just answer on one point: > unsecure How is security defined? What is your threat model? If your threat model includes includes running random native binary blobs from random places like Android or iOS does, then yes, you can definitely consider it unsecure. But that's NOT the target paradigm here, and if you consider it is, you're throwing away 90%+ of the GNU/Linux distributions out there. Last time I checked, running GNU/Linux on servers or desktops wasn't considered bad practice, quite the opposite. Instead, it may be more secure than iOS, depending on your usage, because the paradigm is to install only opensource software that you actually trust.

by dtx1 4y ago

hdhrufjdi 4y ago

You don't need an Android phone for messengers. Just get Beeper and a Linux Matrix Client and you can communicate with iMessage, Telegram and WhatsApp users without having an Android phone My bank account works in the Browser

clircle 4y ago
> My bank account works in the Browser Sounds like pure hell on mobile.
- hdhrufjdi 4y ago
  It isn't though. What fits into a app screen of a phone also fits into a browser screen on a phone
  - helf 4y ago
    [dead]
  - CoolCold 4y ago
    how your bank's push notifications work without native app? Recently I see there is fingerprint support in browsers on Android, but AFAIK it's quite new - have you had to enter password each time?
    - toast0 4y ago
      Webpush is a thing? But I don't get push notifications from my bank, so I don't know what I would be missing? Also, not everyone is willing to use fingerprints, so there's that too.
      - CoolCold 4y ago
        I'm interested in technical possibility, so I can understand utility limits/options. Willing or unwilling is per person and bit different question which is out of my interest for now.
pleb_nz 4y ago
Bank App, NFC bank card payments? Tap and pay or paywave are the best thing to happen in mobile IMO. I don't even carry a wallet anymore. I had having to carry a phone and wallet. Now it's back down to only have to carry one thing. Perfect
- adql 4y ago
  I don't trust phone security enough to do that.
  - pleb_nz 4y ago
    It's the same as having a credit card for web orders that has a lower limit, you load the same card into the phone...
- yjftsjthsd-h 4y ago
  > I don't even carry a wallet anymore. That is a lot of faith in the technology. You don't worry about a dead battery? Cracked screen? Phone getting stolen out of your hand in the subway?
  - helf 4y ago
    [dead]
  - pleb_nz 4y ago
    Home is never far away. If something like that happened 99.9% of things can wait until I've been home to collect my wallet. Just as much chance if me loosing my wallet as most of the things you mentioned.

phh 4y ago

People already largely answered on many points, but I'll just answer on one point: > unsecure How is security defined? What is your threat model? If your threat model includes includes running random native binary blobs from random places like Android or iOS does, then yes, you can definitely consider it unsecure. But that's NOT the target paradigm here, and if you consider it is, you're throwing away 90%+ of the GNU/Linux distributions out there. Last time I checked, running GNU/Linux on servers or desktops wasn't considered bad practice, quite the opposite. Instead, it may be more secure than iOS, depending on your usage, because the paradigm is to install only opensource software that you actually trust.