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> Honestly, Americans take for granted some of the freedoms they have in their justice system. Torrenting is a weird example to argue, but I definitely agree

> Honestly, Americans take for granted some of the freedoms they have in their justice system. Torrenting is a weird example to argue, but I definitely agree with the quoted sentiment. Americans tend to (perhaps justly) complain about the costs of standing up to big corporations (or the government) in courts, but in continental Europe there is absolutely no option to have a case against a corporation judged solely on its merits as the judge will be immensely biased to favour the larger, more "respected" entity.

thenaturalist 4y ago
> but in continental Europe there is absolutely no option to have a case against a corporation judged solely on its merits as the judge will be immensely biased to favour the larger, more "respected" entity. Your sweeping generalization is especially ironic here, as the parent finished their comment with the example of Axel Springer losing to AdBlock plus...
- ChuckNorris89 4y ago
  >the example of Axel Springer losing to AdBlock plus... Because AdBlock is a company who luckily had the means to defend themselves in court. Small time individuals don't have that luxury, so the likes of Axel-Springer will use their massive war-chest for lobbying and to abuse the copyright system again and again until they get their way. Even if they're in the wrong and they end up loosing a court battle, it's still a very powerful intimidation tactic. Look up newer articles. Axel-Springer was still pushing for the AdBlock ban in 2022 and lobbying for it despite loosing a court battle. They're playing the long game.
  - thenaturalist 4y ago
    So from comment to comment, you're changing your focus. That's not really a fair debate. Parent's author, whom I quoted, did not focus on copyright cases as you did and do in this comment. Hence I called him out on his generalization. Now you are going back to "small time individuals" in the context of copyright and how that seems to be an unfair system to you. I won't debate the merits or unfairness of copyright. I just disagree with the general notion that all of continental Europe is a corporation paradise and all citizens are oppressed and all judges rule with corps. It's frankly ridiculous.

thenaturalist 4y ago

> but in continental Europe there is absolutely no option to have a case against a corporation judged solely on its merits as the judge will be immensely biased to favour the larger, more "respected" entity. Your sweeping generalization is especially ironic here, as the parent finished their comment with the example of Axel Springer losing to AdBlock plus...

ChuckNorris89 4y ago
>the example of Axel Springer losing to AdBlock plus... Because AdBlock is a company who luckily had the means to defend themselves in court. Small time individuals don't have that luxury, so the likes of Axel-Springer will use their massive war-chest for lobbying and to abuse the copyright system again and again until they get their way. Even if they're in the wrong and they end up loosing a court battle, it's still a very powerful intimidation tactic. Look up newer articles. Axel-Springer was still pushing for the AdBlock ban in 2022 and lobbying for it despite loosing a court battle. They're playing the long game.
- thenaturalist 4y ago
  So from comment to comment, you're changing your focus. That's not really a fair debate. Parent's author, whom I quoted, did not focus on copyright cases as you did and do in this comment. Hence I called him out on his generalization. Now you are going back to "small time individuals" in the context of copyright and how that seems to be an unfair system to you. I won't debate the merits or unfairness of copyright. I just disagree with the general notion that all of continental Europe is a corporation paradise and all citizens are oppressed and all judges rule with corps. It's frankly ridiculous.