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You could enlighten us with some explanation and sources. We're mostly not Germans after all.

by izacus 4y ago

inductive_magic 4y ago
[not the gp] For one, Germany is not a state of law, given that the public prosecutor's office is bound by instructions (not sure if that's the correct translation). It is up to politicians to decide wether state attorneys can go through with lawsuits. I didn't know this until I was close to 30. This came to somewhat public attention because our current chancellor was the superior to the prosecutor while being in the senate of Hamburg, which is why he wasn't prosecuted in the causa cum ex. It's the whole "one big club" thing, but legal. If you haven't heard of "cum ex", its a fun read of how bad things can go (well, could, so far). Most recently, the data privacy officer of Hamburg said this: Principles for avoiding and minimizing the processing of personal information, which are enshrined in the General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR), among other things, "will be unable to be upheld." Read his job title again :-) Another prime example is how anything related to the future is compromised in favor of legacy industrial groups. We used to be leading in solar tech, but political support for the related industries was gutted in favor of drum roll coal jobs. I could go on for a long time.
- bigger_inside 4y ago
  I don't know why this is getting downvoted, all of this is true. Prosecution in Germany is 100% a political decision. Policing (below this level) is supposed to be "automatic by law", but in practice, that of course also is not the case. All state bureaucracy is of political, always, but in the case of German prosecution, it's openly legal.
sneak 4y ago
For one, you can't get a phone number in Germany without showing strong government ID. Phone number requirements in apps mean that you basically can't use consumer apps without doxing yourself.
- hef19898 4y ago
  I had to show an ID to get a local sim in Tunesia as well... Also, what is a "strong" "government" ID? Are there weak, non-government ones, like library cards?
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- izacus 4y ago
  That's a strange conclusion, what does the fact that you show the ID to operator have to do with doxxing yourself in relation to apps running on your phone? They didn't get the ID.
  - PurpleRamen 4y ago
    Probably means doxxing against the state. You do something sketchy, like spreading hate speech on a social network via your smartphone, and the got you. And hate speech can mean, posting something really awful, or just something harmless, like calling a politician a penis (which was a real case actually, though I don't think they got him through his smartphone).
    - izacus 4y ago
      The state literally knows where you live though?
      - PurpleRamen 4y ago
        How should that work, If you don't link your identity to your phone number?

You could enlighten us with some explanation and sources. We're mostly not Germans after all.

by izacus 4y ago

You could enlighten us with some explanation and sources. We're mostly not Germans after all.

[not the gp] For one, Germany is not a state of law, given that the public prosecutor's office is bound by instructions (not sure if that's the correct translation). It is up to politicians to decide wether state attorneys can go through with lawsuits. I didn't know this until I was close to 30. This came to somewhat public attention because our current chancellor was the superior to the prosecutor while being in the senate of Hamburg, which is why he wasn't prosecuted in the causa cum ex. It's the whole "one big club" thing, but legal. If you haven't heard of "cum ex", its a fun read of how bad things can go (well, could, so far). Most recently, the data privacy officer of Hamburg said this: Principles for avoiding and minimizing the processing of personal information, which are enshrined in the General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR), among other things, "will be unable to be upheld." Read his job title again :-) Another prime example is how anything related to the future is compromised in favor of legacy industrial groups. We used to be leading in solar tech, but political support for the related industries was gutted in favor of drum roll coal jobs. I could go on for a long time.

bigger_inside 4y ago
I don't know why this is getting downvoted, all of this is true. Prosecution in Germany is 100% a political decision. Policing (below this level) is supposed to be "automatic by law", but in practice, that of course also is not the case. All state bureaucracy is of political, always, but in the case of German prosecution, it's openly legal.

sneak 4y ago

For one, you can't get a phone number in Germany without showing strong government ID. Phone number requirements in apps mean that you basically can't use consumer apps without doxing yourself.

hef19898 4y ago
I had to show an ID to get a local sim in Tunesia as well... Also, what is a "strong" "government" ID? Are there weak, non-government ones, like library cards?
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izacus 4y ago
That's a strange conclusion, what does the fact that you show the ID to operator have to do with doxxing yourself in relation to apps running on your phone? They didn't get the ID.
- PurpleRamen 4y ago
  Probably means doxxing against the state. You do something sketchy, like spreading hate speech on a social network via your smartphone, and the got you. And hate speech can mean, posting something really awful, or just something harmless, like calling a politician a penis (which was a real case actually, though I don't think they got him through his smartphone).
  - izacus 4y ago
    The state literally knows where you live though?
    - PurpleRamen 4y ago
      How should that work, If you don't link your identity to your phone number?