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> "The United States has appropriated approximately $115 billion in emergency funding to support Ukraine since February 24, 2022." Ukraine received about $7b i

> "The United States has appropriated approximately $115 billion in emergency funding to support Ukraine since February 24, 2022." Ukraine received about $7b in 2022. $12b does not look like a tiny fraction of $7b.

lenkite 4y ago
Can you please provide the source for your just $7 billion figure ? I am not sure where you quoting from. A fairly conservative source is here: Bilateral aid to Ukraine between January 24, 2022, and January 15, 2023 https://www.cfr.org/article/how-much-aid-has-us-sent-ukraine-here-are-six-charts https://www.cfr.org/article/how-much-aid-has-us-sent-ukraine... . This by itself $76.8 billion in committed aid and does not include all U.S. spending related to the war. And newer appropriations made just after Jan 2023 The non-conservative estimate: https://www.crfb.org/blogs/congress-approved-113-billion-aid-ukraine-2022 https://www.crfb.org/blogs/congress-approved-113-billion-aid... which adds upto $113 billion in 2022.
- oneshtein 4y ago
  I looked at the first graph in the first article returned by Google: https://usafacts.org/articles/how-much-money-has-the-us-given-ukraine-since-russias-invasion/ https://usafacts.org/articles/how-much-money-has-the-us-give...
  - lenkite 4y ago
    So ? You are looking at one sub-component of the aid in flight in 2022 encapsulated in one bill. Your link itself takes the upper value of the allocated aid: "The nation has allocated $114.9 billion in aid over the last year, contained in four separate bills". Please do that for border security in the U.S. Like Ukraine, there is utterly NO need to transfer all the money in ONE big bang - can do the same in chunks. As long as the "border aid" is allocated in chunks - we can have better drug scanners at ports, more personnel and patrols, more funds to care for actual migrants (as opposed to drug camels), investigative teams to track down drug-routes and personnel involved, etc

lenkite 4y ago

Can you please provide the source for your just $7 billion figure ? I am not sure where you quoting from. A fairly conservative source is here: Bilateral aid to Ukraine between January 24, 2022, and January 15, 2023 https://www.cfr.org/article/how-much-aid-has-us-sent-ukraine-here-are-six-charts https://www.cfr.org/article/how-much-aid-has-us-sent-ukraine... . This by itself $76.8 billion in committed aid and does not include all U.S. spending related to the war. And newer appropriations made just after Jan 2023 The non-conservative estimate: https://www.crfb.org/blogs/congress-approved-113-billion-aid-ukraine-2022 https://www.crfb.org/blogs/congress-approved-113-billion-aid... which adds upto $113 billion in 2022.

oneshtein 4y ago
I looked at the first graph in the first article returned by Google: https://usafacts.org/articles/how-much-money-has-the-us-given-ukraine-since-russias-invasion/ https://usafacts.org/articles/how-much-money-has-the-us-give...
- lenkite 4y ago
  So ? You are looking at one sub-component of the aid in flight in 2022 encapsulated in one bill. Your link itself takes the upper value of the allocated aid: "The nation has allocated $114.9 billion in aid over the last year, contained in four separate bills". Please do that for border security in the U.S. Like Ukraine, there is utterly NO need to transfer all the money in ONE big bang - can do the same in chunks. As long as the "border aid" is allocated in chunks - we can have better drug scanners at ports, more personnel and patrols, more funds to care for actual migrants (as opposed to drug camels), investigative teams to track down drug-routes and personnel involved, etc