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> After experiencing first-hand German copyright case and desist bullying So you got caught pirating content? How is that an argument for or against anything o

by snehk 4y ago

> After experiencing first-hand German copyright case and desist bullying So you got caught pirating content? How is that an argument for or against anything or proof of anything?

rawbot 4y ago
but what would Schufa have to do with it?
- expertentipp 4y ago
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  - martijnvds 4y ago
    TV license is basically just another tax, right? And what do you mean by the second part? As far as I understand private data in Germany is _very_ private, or it would be a violation of the "Datenschutz" (data protection) laws.
    - expertentipp 4y ago
      You register at Meldebehörde, the letter from Rundfunkbeitrag arrives. Then another one. Increasingly apeshit letters. To every person in the household.
      - 9dev 4y ago
        Well... that's kind of the deal with public broadcast fees in Germany. I also think the way it's collected is pretty weird, but that doesn't make the Rundfunkbeitrag a bad thing in general. You seem to be rambling about a lot of different things here, conflating some of them entirely unrelated to privacy laws: If you get caught torrenting a torrent poisoned by a private law firm, that hasn't got anything to do with German legislation. Schufa, on the other hand, claims to operate under existing DSGVO/GDPR law (even though that may be invalidated eventually); and other than the Rundfunkbeitrag, I'm not aware of any data sharing between the Meldebehörde and "public media", whoever that is.
      - martijnvds 4y ago
        https://www.rundfunkbeitrag.de/datenschutz/datenschutz_beim_beitragseinzug/index_ger.html#auf_welcher_rechtsgrundlage_zu_welchem_zweck_werden_die_daten_verarbeitet https://www.rundfunkbeitrag.de/datenschutz/datenschutz_beim_... There are laws that govern this. It's not some shady business.
      - catslovepie 4y ago
        Calling public media cunts already gives me an idea what kind of person you are. Rundfunkbeitrag has to be paid by every household by law and is meant to ensure independent reporting by the public media, especially independent from political parties or corporations. We can argue how well this works in Germany, but there are quite a lot of examples around the world where it's way worse.
    - PurpleRamen 4y ago
      > TV license is basically just another tax, right? Technically it's not, which is why there is private company collecting it. > As far as I understand private data in Germany is _very_ private, or it would be a violation of the "Datenschutz" (data protection) laws. Yes and no. The company is infamous for doing sketchy things, buying addresses here and there, including getting them from public sources, and this is not even illegal to some degree.
      - DocTomoe 4y ago
        > Technically it's not, which is why there is private company collecting it. Technically it is a "öffentlich-rechtliche, nicht rechtsfähige Gemeinschaftseinrichtung", and not a private company.
- Arnt 4y ago
  Guessing: GP did something, lost a copyright case in court, had to pay, didn't pay, and that's a "did not pay debts" entry in the Schufa database.
  - expertentipp 4y ago
    Double negative. Ticked the "bugger off" answer to the yellow envelope and Schufa simply infinitely pisses me off. With omnipresent requirement for Schufa report and how they upsell their useless predatory subscriptions on attempt to obtain the free report.
expertentipp 4y ago
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- snehk 4y ago
  "I got caught doing illegal things" is not really an argument. You can argue that piracy shouldn't be illegal but the fact that you got caught doing it isn't at all an argument against anything.
  - expertentipp 4y ago
    They only go apeshit on the owner of the internet subscription, they don't catch anyone on doing anything.
    - snehk 4y ago
      I still don't understand what you're getting at? If you get into a speed trap they also contact the person who registered the car, not the person driving. I don't see how this is any indication of hypocrisy here.
      - expertentipp 4y ago
        Yes I would download a car. I would download it so hard that the connection would turn red and swollen.

by snehk 4y ago

> After experiencing first-hand German copyright case and desist bullying So you got caught pirating content? How is that an argument for or against anything or proof of anything?

rawbot 4y ago

but what would Schufa have to do with it?

expertentipp 4y ago
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- martijnvds 4y ago
  TV license is basically just another tax, right? And what do you mean by the second part? As far as I understand private data in Germany is _very_ private, or it would be a violation of the "Datenschutz" (data protection) laws.
  - expertentipp 4y ago
    You register at Meldebehörde, the letter from Rundfunkbeitrag arrives. Then another one. Increasingly apeshit letters. To every person in the household.
    - 9dev 4y ago
      Well... that's kind of the deal with public broadcast fees in Germany. I also think the way it's collected is pretty weird, but that doesn't make the Rundfunkbeitrag a bad thing in general. You seem to be rambling about a lot of different things here, conflating some of them entirely unrelated to privacy laws: If you get caught torrenting a torrent poisoned by a private law firm, that hasn't got anything to do with German legislation. Schufa, on the other hand, claims to operate under existing DSGVO/GDPR law (even though that may be invalidated eventually); and other than the Rundfunkbeitrag, I'm not aware of any data sharing between the Meldebehörde and "public media", whoever that is.
    - martijnvds 4y ago
      https://www.rundfunkbeitrag.de/datenschutz/datenschutz_beim_beitragseinzug/index_ger.html#auf_welcher_rechtsgrundlage_zu_welchem_zweck_werden_die_daten_verarbeitet https://www.rundfunkbeitrag.de/datenschutz/datenschutz_beim_... There are laws that govern this. It's not some shady business.
    - catslovepie 4y ago
      Calling public media cunts already gives me an idea what kind of person you are. Rundfunkbeitrag has to be paid by every household by law and is meant to ensure independent reporting by the public media, especially independent from political parties or corporations. We can argue how well this works in Germany, but there are quite a lot of examples around the world where it's way worse.
  - PurpleRamen 4y ago
    > TV license is basically just another tax, right? Technically it's not, which is why there is private company collecting it. > As far as I understand private data in Germany is _very_ private, or it would be a violation of the "Datenschutz" (data protection) laws. Yes and no. The company is infamous for doing sketchy things, buying addresses here and there, including getting them from public sources, and this is not even illegal to some degree.
    - DocTomoe 4y ago
      > Technically it's not, which is why there is private company collecting it. Technically it is a "öffentlich-rechtliche, nicht rechtsfähige Gemeinschaftseinrichtung", and not a private company.
Arnt 4y ago
Guessing: GP did something, lost a copyright case in court, had to pay, didn't pay, and that's a "did not pay debts" entry in the Schufa database.
- expertentipp 4y ago
  Double negative. Ticked the "bugger off" answer to the yellow envelope and Schufa simply infinitely pisses me off. With omnipresent requirement for Schufa report and how they upsell their useless predatory subscriptions on attempt to obtain the free report.

expertentipp 4y ago

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snehk 4y ago
"I got caught doing illegal things" is not really an argument. You can argue that piracy shouldn't be illegal but the fact that you got caught doing it isn't at all an argument against anything.
- expertentipp 4y ago
  They only go apeshit on the owner of the internet subscription, they don't catch anyone on doing anything.
  - snehk 4y ago
    I still don't understand what you're getting at? If you get into a speed trap they also contact the person who registered the car, not the person driving. I don't see how this is any indication of hypocrisy here.
    - expertentipp 4y ago
      Yes I would download a car. I would download it so hard that the connection would turn red and swollen.