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Bootstrap is not overused; just under customized. In all fairness, what this proves is that there is a fairly large market for such packaged customization them

Bootstrap is not overused; just under customized. In all fairness, what this proves is that there is a fairly large market for such packaged customization themes which are built thoughtfully and work on all resolutions.

dglassan 15y ago
This has already been proved by themeforest.net years ago with their admin templates
- scorpion032 15y ago
  True. Clearly their time is divided into doing so many of those themes. Instead, if they did a (or a few) authoritative themes with compass css with such good documentation as bootstrap and their theme works at all resolutions, I'm sure people will use that one too.
  - whatusername 15y ago
    Themeforest is a marketplace. They make money no matter which one you buy.
StavrosK 15y ago
I have filed a bug that was closed about this very thing. Bootstrap is very hard to customize because the variable color names are inane. Rather than define a palette of X many colors and then use that everywhere, bootstrap defines variables as @gray, @pink, @white, etc. If you want a light-on-dark layout, you need to redefine @gray as white, which makes no sense. I proposed names like @primaryColor, @primaryColorLight, @secondaryColor, etc, but the tickets were closed. Yes, it's a lot of work, but it must be done. If you can define your four colors and have Bootstrap look entirely different, it goes a long way to instant customization.
- dminor 15y ago
  That's a shame - this is my main complaint about bootstrap. If you do plunge ahead and do a bunch of color customization, it also makes upgrading to new versions a pain.
  - StavrosK 15y ago
    Actually, to give credit where it's due, I just downloaded the 2.0 release and it seems like things are much better. Still not at the point I'm describing, but at least the end classes aren't littered with @gray declarations.
  - danneu 15y ago
    I didn't even notice the LESS variables and built a dark theme in about 20 minutes by cascading over Bootstrap vanilla. Upgrading isn't an issue as long as you make customizations in a separate file that you simply include after bootstrap.css. http://danneu.com/darkstrap/darkstrap.html http://danneu.com/darkstrap/darkstrap.html
charliepark 15y ago
Speaking of this, I built a tool using jQuery and Twitter Bootstrap itself that lets you customize the button's hue, saturation, lightness, and "puffiness". You can see it here: http://charliepark.org/bootstrap_buttons/ http://charliepark.org/bootstrap_buttons/. Any discussion on it will hopefully be at the HN thread I just submitted (http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3538053 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3538053).

dglassan 15y ago

This has already been proved by themeforest.net years ago with their admin templates

scorpion032 15y ago
True. Clearly their time is divided into doing so many of those themes. Instead, if they did a (or a few) authoritative themes with compass css with such good documentation as bootstrap and their theme works at all resolutions, I'm sure people will use that one too.
- whatusername 15y ago
  Themeforest is a marketplace. They make money no matter which one you buy.

StavrosK 15y ago

I have filed a bug that was closed about this very thing. Bootstrap is very hard to customize because the variable color names are inane. Rather than define a palette of X many colors and then use that everywhere, bootstrap defines variables as @gray, @pink, @white, etc. If you want a light-on-dark layout, you need to redefine @gray as white, which makes no sense. I proposed names like @primaryColor, @primaryColorLight, @secondaryColor, etc, but the tickets were closed. Yes, it's a lot of work, but it must be done. If you can define your four colors and have Bootstrap look entirely different, it goes a long way to instant customization.

dminor 15y ago
That's a shame - this is my main complaint about bootstrap. If you do plunge ahead and do a bunch of color customization, it also makes upgrading to new versions a pain.
- StavrosK 15y ago
  Actually, to give credit where it's due, I just downloaded the 2.0 release and it seems like things are much better. Still not at the point I'm describing, but at least the end classes aren't littered with @gray declarations.
- danneu 15y ago
  I didn't even notice the LESS variables and built a dark theme in about 20 minutes by cascading over Bootstrap vanilla. Upgrading isn't an issue as long as you make customizations in a separate file that you simply include after bootstrap.css. http://danneu.com/darkstrap/darkstrap.html http://danneu.com/darkstrap/darkstrap.html

charliepark 15y ago

Speaking of this, I built a tool using jQuery and Twitter Bootstrap itself that lets you customize the button's hue, saturation, lightness, and "puffiness". You can see it here: http://charliepark.org/bootstrap_buttons/ http://charliepark.org/bootstrap_buttons/. Any discussion on it will hopefully be at the HN thread I just submitted (http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3538053 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3538053).