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Being jealous isn't a justification for any action

criley2 4y ago
I think you mean to say that you don't respect actors who justify their actions through "jealousy". In reality, jealously is a fine justification for actions and arguably the most used justification for any action in human history. Hard to think of a historical war that wasn't based on "jealousy", in the end. I kind of feel like your comment is like saying "Being poor isn't an excuse for stealing bread", and while completely and totally true, it really works hard to miss the point.
- ozim 4y ago
  No he means “being poor isn’t an excuse for being asshole”. Just like keying your neighbor car because he could afford nice one is not acceptable whatever you feel like.
  - criley2 4y ago
    "Keying your neighbors car because they have a nicer one" is not an analogy that works for anything here. What is happening in NPM is not a car being keyed. There is a profit motive for doing this. Perhaps you could say "Stealing 1 gallon of gas from your rich neighbors car to feed your starving children makes you an asshole", that's an analogy that seems to fit what is happening here, and an opinion I would disagree with.
    - alexb_ 4y ago
      What is your opinion on catalytic converter thieves?
    - ozim 4y ago
      It works perfectly fine. IF you steal gas from neighbors car to feed starving children does not make you an asshole. If you do it in a way to minimize damage. If you come over and mess his whole car up in the process just because "he is rich" - that makes one an asshole. The same with spamming NPM, OK I can understand they feel the need to earn money - but they are messing up something useful for others in bad way. They probably could still put effort to do many other things that would bring profit and would not mess up thing that many people will start loosing trust.
Dudeman112 4y ago
Ah, the age-old mixing pointing out the reasons for why an individual might act they way they do with morally absolving them Ever common amongst people who have never seen or felt the consequences of abject poverty
tremon 4y ago
On the contrary, jealousy is one of the major drivers of consumerism.

I think you mean to say that you don't respect actors who justify their actions through "jealousy". In reality, jealously is a fine justification for actions and arguably the most used justification for any action in human history. Hard to think of a historical war that wasn't based on "jealousy", in the end. I kind of feel like your comment is like saying "Being poor isn't an excuse for stealing bread", and while completely and totally true, it really works hard to miss the point.

ozim 4y ago
No he means “being poor isn’t an excuse for being asshole”. Just like keying your neighbor car because he could afford nice one is not acceptable whatever you feel like.
- criley2 4y ago
  "Keying your neighbors car because they have a nicer one" is not an analogy that works for anything here. What is happening in NPM is not a car being keyed. There is a profit motive for doing this. Perhaps you could say "Stealing 1 gallon of gas from your rich neighbors car to feed your starving children makes you an asshole", that's an analogy that seems to fit what is happening here, and an opinion I would disagree with.
  - alexb_ 4y ago
    What is your opinion on catalytic converter thieves?
  - ozim 4y ago
    It works perfectly fine. IF you steal gas from neighbors car to feed starving children does not make you an asshole. If you do it in a way to minimize damage. If you come over and mess his whole car up in the process just because "he is rich" - that makes one an asshole. The same with spamming NPM, OK I can understand they feel the need to earn money - but they are messing up something useful for others in bad way. They probably could still put effort to do many other things that would bring profit and would not mess up thing that many people will start loosing trust.

Dudeman112 4y ago

Ah, the age-old mixing pointing out the reasons for why an individual might act they way they do with morally absolving them Ever common amongst people who have never seen or felt the consequences of abject poverty

tremon 4y ago

On the contrary, jealousy is one of the major drivers of consumerism.