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good luck avoiding the components, materials, and packaging everyone uses that are made in china. including the stuff made in india, malaysia, thailand, japan,

good luck avoiding the components, materials, and packaging everyone uses that are made in china. including the stuff made in india, malaysia, thailand, japan, singapore, indonesia, germany, usa, canada, and mexico. i say if you want to fight for democracy, pick up a rifle and join the marines, or go work for lockheed or raytheon. our military could always use more smart people.

audunw 4y ago
That's ridiculous.. There's a huge difference between supporting a product fully developed, designed and marketed from China, with Chinese companies taking all of the margins -- versus a product with various sub-components with razor thin margins supplied from China. China is desperate to climb up from low-value, low-margin contract manufacturing to higher end work. Their rising wage levels and demographic shift demands it. The rest of the world needs to put its foot down and say "No, you can keep taking low end contracts if you want, but if you want to move up the chain you have to grow up and act like a mature industrialized country. If you're not going to let foreign companies operate and compete on fair terms in your country, don't expect us to let your companies compete freely in our countries." Manufacturing is already slowly moving out of China due to rising labor costs and automation. If we stop buying stuff fully owned, designed and marketed from China, the pressure will keep increasing for China to get its act together. I mean, otherwise we might as well giving up on designing and marketing anything in the west. China will have a crazy advantage if they get to play by completely different and unfair rules, ignoring our IP laws, getting subsidized shipping on everything (since they're a "developing" country), getting to ignore quality control because returns are hopeless, getting to flood Amazon with low-quality products with fake reviews, while working from the place where all this stuff is manufactured anyway.
- inconceivable 4y ago
  maybe you should try to stop buying cheap crap in general instead of getting angry at shady internet marketers on the other side of the planet. you're not going to stop china's economic rise without military intervention. the world is a big place with lots of markets. join the military and be on the front lines of the coming cold war where you can do some real good. https://www.marines.com/become-a-marine/process-to-join.html https://www.marines.com/become-a-marine/process-to-join.html https://www.lockheedmartinjobs.com/ https://www.lockheedmartinjobs.com/ https://careers.rtx.com/global/en https://careers.rtx.com/global/en

audunw 4y ago

That's ridiculous.. There's a huge difference between supporting a product fully developed, designed and marketed from China, with Chinese companies taking all of the margins -- versus a product with various sub-components with razor thin margins supplied from China. China is desperate to climb up from low-value, low-margin contract manufacturing to higher end work. Their rising wage levels and demographic shift demands it. The rest of the world needs to put its foot down and say "No, you can keep taking low end contracts if you want, but if you want to move up the chain you have to grow up and act like a mature industrialized country. If you're not going to let foreign companies operate and compete on fair terms in your country, don't expect us to let your companies compete freely in our countries." Manufacturing is already slowly moving out of China due to rising labor costs and automation. If we stop buying stuff fully owned, designed and marketed from China, the pressure will keep increasing for China to get its act together. I mean, otherwise we might as well giving up on designing and marketing anything in the west. China will have a crazy advantage if they get to play by completely different and unfair rules, ignoring our IP laws, getting subsidized shipping on everything (since they're a "developing" country), getting to ignore quality control because returns are hopeless, getting to flood Amazon with low-quality products with fake reviews, while working from the place where all this stuff is manufactured anyway.

inconceivable 4y ago
maybe you should try to stop buying cheap crap in general instead of getting angry at shady internet marketers on the other side of the planet. you're not going to stop china's economic rise without military intervention. the world is a big place with lots of markets. join the military and be on the front lines of the coming cold war where you can do some real good. https://www.marines.com/become-a-marine/process-to-join.html https://www.marines.com/become-a-marine/process-to-join.html https://www.lockheedmartinjobs.com/ https://www.lockheedmartinjobs.com/ https://careers.rtx.com/global/en https://careers.rtx.com/global/en