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>I feel like if I actually believed that the death of all biological life was imminent and that the only way to forestall it was to bomb data centers, I'd spend

>I feel like if I actually believed that the death of all biological life was imminent and that the only way to forestall it was to bomb data centers, I'd spend a lot more time planning how to bomb data centers and a lot less time curating Shoggoth memes on my web forum Alternatively, perhaps the author is proposing a less violent solution to avoid the inevitable escalation. Unlike cartoons, in real life people don't give a wordy monologues revealing their plan. The Unabomber did not give any warning.

Imnimo 4y ago
The author's proposed solution is: Shut down all the large GPU clusters (the large computer farms where the most powerful AIs are refined). Shut down all the large training runs. Put a ceiling on how much computing power anyone is allowed to use in training an AI system, and move it downward over the coming years to compensate for more efficient training algorithms. No exceptions for governments and militaries. Make immediate multinational agreements to prevent the prohibited activities from moving elsewhere. Track all GPUs sold. If intelligence says that a country outside the agreement is building a GPU cluster, be less scared of a shooting conflict between nations than of the moratorium being violated; be willing to destroy a rogue datacenter by airstrike. How is this less violent than bombing data centers? His proposal is literally "bomb datacenters plus a bunch of other stuff".
- antibasilisk 4y ago
  He is talking about interstate warfare. I am talking about the almost inevitable organized terrorism that we're going to see if people start identifying this as an imminent threat to their survival. I think turning America into Syria is a bit more violent than iran and israel blowing up each other's stuff.
  - MacsHeadroom 4y ago
    >He is talking about interstate warfare. "Frame nothing as a conflict between national interests" "this, is not a policy but a fact of nature." "[be] willing to run some risk of nuclear exchange if that’s what it takes" idk
    - antibasilisk 4y ago
      He's talking about framing, not the practicalities of exchanges.
crhulls 4y ago
It doesn’t change your point all that much but the Unabomber gave literal warnings about his plans. That is how his manifesto was published, which was ironically about the risk of technological takeover.
- antibasilisk 4y ago
  I was referring to the initiation of his terrorism. There was no prior warning to that. The' warning' he gave, was less a warning and more a threat.

Imnimo 4y ago

The author's proposed solution is: Shut down all the large GPU clusters (the large computer farms where the most powerful AIs are refined). Shut down all the large training runs. Put a ceiling on how much computing power anyone is allowed to use in training an AI system, and move it downward over the coming years to compensate for more efficient training algorithms. No exceptions for governments and militaries. Make immediate multinational agreements to prevent the prohibited activities from moving elsewhere. Track all GPUs sold. If intelligence says that a country outside the agreement is building a GPU cluster, be less scared of a shooting conflict between nations than of the moratorium being violated; be willing to destroy a rogue datacenter by airstrike. How is this less violent than bombing data centers? His proposal is literally "bomb datacenters plus a bunch of other stuff".

antibasilisk 4y ago
He is talking about interstate warfare. I am talking about the almost inevitable organized terrorism that we're going to see if people start identifying this as an imminent threat to their survival. I think turning America into Syria is a bit more violent than iran and israel blowing up each other's stuff.
- MacsHeadroom 4y ago
  >He is talking about interstate warfare. "Frame nothing as a conflict between national interests" "this, is not a policy but a fact of nature." "[be] willing to run some risk of nuclear exchange if that’s what it takes" idk
  - antibasilisk 4y ago
    He's talking about framing, not the practicalities of exchanges.

crhulls 4y ago

It doesn’t change your point all that much but the Unabomber gave literal warnings about his plans. That is how his manifesto was published, which was ironically about the risk of technological takeover.

antibasilisk 4y ago
I was referring to the initiation of his terrorism. There was no prior warning to that. The' warning' he gave, was less a warning and more a threat.