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And I doubt border security is a partisan issue in France whereas one of the two parties seems hell bent on open borders here.

rnk 4y ago
I'm sure you are blaming democrats here. It's not true in practice. Dems don't want endless crime, they don't want open borders for fentanyl to come through. It's a lazy, incorrect statement.
- anon291 4y ago
  I've spoken with many democrats (since I live in a democrat controlled city in a democrat controlled state, it's hard to avoid) and what they say they want and who they vote for are completely divergent. I mean... If you vote to let violent criminals out of jail in the hopes violent crime will go down, something is missing up there. This has been my universal experience with democrat voters. It is what drove me away from the party. They'll trust 'experts' ridiculous advice over their own common sense. Most of them are extremely partisan, and will quickly label any independent candidate as a Republican, which is enough reason to not vote for them. Either way, democrats have been in charge of cities for years in this country and it simply hasn't turned out well. I often align with democrats on fiscal policy, but the voting bases inability to use common sense reasoning and their overuse of the cliche of everything being 'complicated' has driven me away
lmm 4y ago
Migration is absolutely a partisan issue in France.
seszett 4y ago
As part of the EU, France's borders are basically wide open (except for the relatively small or less important borders with the UK, Suriname, Brazil and more surprisingly the border with the Netherlands). Border security is very much a partisan issue, with the far-right being very much opposed to freedom of movement.
- qsi 4y ago
  France has a border with the Netherlands? I guess if you count St. Maarten that's correct but that border is wide open. Is there another one I'm missing?
  - seszett 4y ago
    I though it was not totally open since I've heard for a long time about some difficulty to get to some agreement on border control, but apparently it's only for the airports, so the border itself is open indeed.

rnk 4y ago

I'm sure you are blaming democrats here. It's not true in practice. Dems don't want endless crime, they don't want open borders for fentanyl to come through. It's a lazy, incorrect statement.

anon291 4y ago
I've spoken with many democrats (since I live in a democrat controlled city in a democrat controlled state, it's hard to avoid) and what they say they want and who they vote for are completely divergent. I mean... If you vote to let violent criminals out of jail in the hopes violent crime will go down, something is missing up there. This has been my universal experience with democrat voters. It is what drove me away from the party. They'll trust 'experts' ridiculous advice over their own common sense. Most of them are extremely partisan, and will quickly label any independent candidate as a Republican, which is enough reason to not vote for them. Either way, democrats have been in charge of cities for years in this country and it simply hasn't turned out well. I often align with democrats on fiscal policy, but the voting bases inability to use common sense reasoning and their overuse of the cliche of everything being 'complicated' has driven me away

lmm 4y ago

Migration is absolutely a partisan issue in France.

seszett 4y ago

As part of the EU, France's borders are basically wide open (except for the relatively small or less important borders with the UK, Suriname, Brazil and more surprisingly the border with the Netherlands). Border security is very much a partisan issue, with the far-right being very much opposed to freedom of movement.

qsi 4y ago
France has a border with the Netherlands? I guess if you count St. Maarten that's correct but that border is wide open. Is there another one I'm missing?
- seszett 4y ago
  I though it was not totally open since I've heard for a long time about some difficulty to get to some agreement on border control, but apparently it's only for the airports, so the border itself is open indeed.