> You only had one? How can you pretend to know a brand with 1 model? Because it is also a common sentiment I've heard from others, on X1s. But also because it

> You only had one? How can you pretend to know a brand with 1 model? Because it is also a common sentiment I've heard from others, on X1s. But also because it was my experience > FYI, of the modern thinkpads, only those from the X1 series are good. I'm sure if you research thoroughly and are lucky it xan work. I'd rather pay fir a company that fully backs Linux on the hardware. > TBH the nano is so great that I've moved from Windows to Linux on the desk(lap)top in 2023 :) I'm glad you did, welcome! (I've been running Linux since the 90s. :) I'm glad it's working for you, but I'd suggest it's a poor strategy even if it's perhaps an acceptable tactic. > Look at the comments from your own link, from actual users of Clevos who are trying to politely say it's not as good as claimed. Yes, because Clevos are not System76? That's rather my point. They're the people who bought Clevos and discovered the hard way that they're different in very salient ways. > There's a lot of astroturfing from linux related brands on sites like HN. Astroturfing? I've talked woth these folks and have used their hardware since the late to mid-aughts. Saying they're contradicting their claims, and they're saying up front they work for System76. It's like claiming a RedHat dev is astroturfing when they say how the internals of the distro work. (And I'm highly sceptical of them having the disposable cash to splash out to hire astroturfers!) > tweaked fan curve is nothing to brag about, when they have components not even working like the fingerprint reader. It's not just a tweaked fan curve. The firmwares are entirely different. The reply about the fingerprint reader sounds reasonable. They don't have nearly the leverage of Dell, Lenovo, or Apple to get the ODM to do what they want. This sounds reasonable (and not my own experience.) They're a small shop, in no small part because people keep showing Linux on Windows computers. > Now if you are curious, invest a few hunders in a used thinkpad and see for yourself. I could, or I could keep buying hardware that is for Linux, with support. I think my time is worth it.