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Are you seriously suggesting that banning TikTok will significantly reduce school shootings?

by Thiez 4y ago

rayiner 4y ago
I’m asking in general terms what OP thinks causes school shootings.
- withinboredom 4y ago
  Kids getting pissed off and anyone able to walk into a store and buy a gun, without knowing how to use it or store it properly… but that’s just a guess.
  - rayiner 4y ago
    It’s illegal to sell guns to minors in even deep red states like Tennessee. And the percentage of households with guns (where kids can get access to them) has declined dramatically, from 47% in 1973 to 31% in 2014. https://www.norc.org/PDFs/GSS%20Reports/GSS_Trends%20in%20Gun%20Ownership_US_1972-2014.pdf#page5 https://www.norc.org/PDFs/GSS%20Reports/GSS_Trends%20in%20Gu...
    - withinboredom 4y ago
      31% is about 1 out of 3. That’s a big number.
      - rayiner 4y ago
        Except mass shootings are much more prevalent now than they were in the 1970s. If you see the dependent variable going up as your proposed independent variable is going down, that raises questions about your theory of causation. Also, America’s current rate of household gun ownership is about the same as Canada, Norway, and Switzerland in the 1990s: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1485564/pdf/cmaj00266-0071.pdf https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1485564/pdf/cma... (p. 1723). France and Finland were in the low -20s, not exactly disarmed. But our current homicide rate (65 per million) is more than double Canada’s, five times higher than Norway’s, and six times higher than Switzerland’s rates when those countries had similar percentages of households with guns as america does now.
        withinboredom 4y ago
        There’s a big difference between gun ownership in those countries vs the US. In those countries, you can’t just toss loaded guns in your glove box (with the safeties off!) like I’ve seen some of my American friends do. Americans have literally zero training on how to use the weapons they own.

Are you seriously suggesting that banning TikTok will significantly reduce school shootings?

by Thiez 4y ago

Are you seriously suggesting that banning TikTok will significantly reduce school shootings?

rayiner 4y ago

I’m asking in general terms what OP thinks causes school shootings.

withinboredom 4y ago
Kids getting pissed off and anyone able to walk into a store and buy a gun, without knowing how to use it or store it properly… but that’s just a guess.
- rayiner 4y ago
  It’s illegal to sell guns to minors in even deep red states like Tennessee. And the percentage of households with guns (where kids can get access to them) has declined dramatically, from 47% in 1973 to 31% in 2014. https://www.norc.org/PDFs/GSS%20Reports/GSS_Trends%20in%20Gun%20Ownership_US_1972-2014.pdf#page5 https://www.norc.org/PDFs/GSS%20Reports/GSS_Trends%20in%20Gu...
  - withinboredom 4y ago
    31% is about 1 out of 3. That’s a big number.
    - rayiner 4y ago
      Except mass shootings are much more prevalent now than they were in the 1970s. If you see the dependent variable going up as your proposed independent variable is going down, that raises questions about your theory of causation. Also, America’s current rate of household gun ownership is about the same as Canada, Norway, and Switzerland in the 1990s: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1485564/pdf/cmaj00266-0071.pdf https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1485564/pdf/cma... (p. 1723). France and Finland were in the low -20s, not exactly disarmed. But our current homicide rate (65 per million) is more than double Canada’s, five times higher than Norway’s, and six times higher than Switzerland’s rates when those countries had similar percentages of households with guns as america does now.
      - withinboredom 4y ago
        There’s a big difference between gun ownership in those countries vs the US. In those countries, you can’t just toss loaded guns in your glove box (with the safeties off!) like I’ve seen some of my American friends do. Americans have literally zero training on how to use the weapons they own.