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I don't subscribe so I only read the first two paragraphs fluffed out to say city kids in US are slightly shorter than country kids. I dare say whomever will r

I don't subscribe so I only read the first two paragraphs fluffed out to say city kids in US are slightly shorter than country kids. I dare say whomever will rediscover the role sodium phosphate plays in growing bodies when consumption is greatly exceeded -- it is used as a food additive, including some soft drinks. I'm sure many soft drink brands may still use the additive, but at a much reduced rate compared to 70s, 80s and 19990s.

johng 4y ago
Isn’t that a huge ingredient in fertilizer as well?
- escapecharacter 4y ago
  Yeah, in Brawndo too
- anenefan 4y ago
  No, it does not form part of commercial fertilizers. Plants though could probably utilize it though. In small amounts it's beneficial to the body, just not in excess.
hammock 4y ago
So you believe sodium phosphate is good or bad?
- anenefan 4y ago
  In excessive amounts it was (1980s) shown to effect skeletal growth detrimentally. The funny thing presently when I search the web is ... I find nothing except a maybe [1] which is sort of sad ... I fear the food industry fingerprints are on poor searches - though I do have somewhere a couple of books from the late 80s that had expounded excess sodium phosphate's role in skeletal formation. When I grew up, in my locale, there was an epidemic of shorter than would be expected children, some clues were there, slowly it seemed most were very thirsty and actively consuming one brand of softdrink ... as much as I liked it, more than a couple of cups caused my gut to grumble and boil for a bit. During the 90s the formulation changed or was fixed, I know it certainly changed as I no longer suffered as I once did if I happened to consume more than a couple cups in a hour. At the time I had no idea of the cause and wasn't until reading conclusions in a pretty grounded book. [1] https://www.health.harvard.edu/staying-healthy/does-carbonated-water-harm-bones https://www.health.harvard.edu/staying-healthy/does-carbonat...
Vrondi 4y ago
Soda consumption is quite high in rural areas in the USA too, though.
- anenefan 4y ago
  Now someone has posted what the article was based on, with comments saying it was done with little controls for genetics and other factors, my comment may have been premature being the first comment in discussion. Sodium Phosphate though is added to many foods [1] [2] -- it's something to keep in mind. It's possible due to a learning curve, that the rate applied to soft drinks has been reduced in the US as well, but I'm not privy to that sort of information. [1] https://www.healthline.com/health/sodium-phosphate https://www.healthline.com/health/sodium-phosphate [2] https://www.ouh.nhs.uk/patient-guide/leaflets/files/56112Pphosphate.pdf https://www.ouh.nhs.uk/patient-guide/leaflets/files/56112Pph...

johng 4y ago

Isn’t that a huge ingredient in fertilizer as well?

escapecharacter 4y ago
Yeah, in Brawndo too
anenefan 4y ago
No, it does not form part of commercial fertilizers. Plants though could probably utilize it though. In small amounts it's beneficial to the body, just not in excess.

hammock 4y ago

So you believe sodium phosphate is good or bad?

anenefan 4y ago
In excessive amounts it was (1980s) shown to effect skeletal growth detrimentally. The funny thing presently when I search the web is ... I find nothing except a maybe [1] which is sort of sad ... I fear the food industry fingerprints are on poor searches - though I do have somewhere a couple of books from the late 80s that had expounded excess sodium phosphate's role in skeletal formation. When I grew up, in my locale, there was an epidemic of shorter than would be expected children, some clues were there, slowly it seemed most were very thirsty and actively consuming one brand of softdrink ... as much as I liked it, more than a couple of cups caused my gut to grumble and boil for a bit. During the 90s the formulation changed or was fixed, I know it certainly changed as I no longer suffered as I once did if I happened to consume more than a couple cups in a hour. At the time I had no idea of the cause and wasn't until reading conclusions in a pretty grounded book. [1] https://www.health.harvard.edu/staying-healthy/does-carbonated-water-harm-bones https://www.health.harvard.edu/staying-healthy/does-carbonat...

Vrondi 4y ago

Soda consumption is quite high in rural areas in the USA too, though.

anenefan 4y ago
Now someone has posted what the article was based on, with comments saying it was done with little controls for genetics and other factors, my comment may have been premature being the first comment in discussion. Sodium Phosphate though is added to many foods [1] [2] -- it's something to keep in mind. It's possible due to a learning curve, that the rate applied to soft drinks has been reduced in the US as well, but I'm not privy to that sort of information. [1] https://www.healthline.com/health/sodium-phosphate https://www.healthline.com/health/sodium-phosphate [2] https://www.ouh.nhs.uk/patient-guide/leaflets/files/56112Pphosphate.pdf https://www.ouh.nhs.uk/patient-guide/leaflets/files/56112Pph...