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We've stopped using rSpec ...

19 points by qhoxie 18y ago

mhartl 18y ago
I do use RSpec, but I have some of the same reservations as Courtenay. This is really a more general problem with any third-party library: using gems, plugins, etc. can give you a big leg up if they provide the functionality you need, but they also represent another point of failure. I sometimes get frustrated when people say "Why not just use 3rd party library X?" I'll tell you why: because it will eventually break.
- ericwaller 18y ago
  I think this is more of a problem with ruby gems then 3rd party libraries in general. Maintaining gems across dev/test/prod environments is probably more complicated than just packaging 3rd party source with your app. It's certainly possible to package gems with the app, but I don't know of any established best practice for it.
  - catch23 18y ago
    If you're on rails, it's rake rails:freeze:gems. If you're using Merb, you can use frozen-merb. If you're just using some adhoc ruby script, you can always install your necessary gems in your home directory in .gems or something and symlink that whenever you need it.
qhoxie 18y ago
What about bacon? I have heard good things but never used it myself.
- jamesbritt 18y ago
  I've used it on a small Ramaze project. Quite nice.
burke 18y ago
I'm using Shoulda for all my projects now. It's a lot more concise.
bjclark 18y ago
Yawn. Who cares what entp uses as a testing framework?
- qhoxie 18y ago
  It's not that they stopped, it's why they stopped. Reading the comments sheds light on even more problems with rspec and options for other testing stacks.
- petercooper 18y ago
  Don't you? Why else comment both here and RubyFlow? It's a non-story :) Anyway, you're a lovely person - let that love shine.
pmarsh 18y ago
Christ I haven't even had the chance to finish jumping on the rSpec bandwagon and now it's time to get off? I must be getting old I can't keep up. :)
- orib 18y ago
  This is why I don't jump on bandwagons, but instead use software based on my own evaluation. I try to avoid letting hype influence my decisions. I find a pinch of skepticism goes a long way.
thomasfl 18y ago
What's wrong with good old Test::Unit and TDD?

19 points by qhoxie 18y ago

I do use RSpec, but I have some of the same reservations as Courtenay. This is really a more general problem with any third-party library: using gems, plugins, etc. can give you a big leg up if they provide the functionality you need, but they also represent another point of failure. I sometimes get frustrated when people say "Why not just use 3rd party library X?" I'll tell you why: because it will eventually break.

ericwaller 18y ago
I think this is more of a problem with ruby gems then 3rd party libraries in general. Maintaining gems across dev/test/prod environments is probably more complicated than just packaging 3rd party source with your app. It's certainly possible to package gems with the app, but I don't know of any established best practice for it.
- catch23 18y ago
  If you're on rails, it's rake rails:freeze:gems. If you're using Merb, you can use frozen-merb. If you're just using some adhoc ruby script, you can always install your necessary gems in your home directory in .gems or something and symlink that whenever you need it.

qhoxie 18y ago

What about bacon? I have heard good things but never used it myself.

jamesbritt 18y ago
I've used it on a small Ramaze project. Quite nice.

burke 18y ago

I'm using Shoulda for all my projects now. It's a lot more concise.

bjclark 18y ago

Yawn. Who cares what entp uses as a testing framework?

qhoxie 18y ago
It's not that they stopped, it's why they stopped. Reading the comments sheds light on even more problems with rspec and options for other testing stacks.
petercooper 18y ago
Don't you? Why else comment both here and RubyFlow? It's a non-story :) Anyway, you're a lovely person - let that love shine.

pmarsh 18y ago

Christ I haven't even had the chance to finish jumping on the rSpec bandwagon and now it's time to get off? I must be getting old I can't keep up. :)

orib 18y ago
This is why I don't jump on bandwagons, but instead use software based on my own evaluation. I try to avoid letting hype influence my decisions. I find a pinch of skepticism goes a long way.

thomasfl 18y ago

What's wrong with good old Test::Unit and TDD?