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But its not open markets if one partner blocks all access to it's own market? In what other trade context would this scenario be acceptable? And how does givi
by lazyeye 4y ago
But its not open markets if one partner blocks all access to it's own market?
In what other trade context would this scenario be acceptable?
And how does giving access to an authoritarian regime, famous for controlling speech, promote free speech?
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- kelseyfrog 4y agoConsumer choice is unequivocally good. Besides, the problem is already solvable. People could simply stop using TikTok if they agreed that its disadvantages outweigh its benefits. No one is forcing them. This is a vote with your feet issue, plain and simple.
- brigadier132 4y ago> People could simply stop using TikTok if they agreed that its disadvantages outweigh its benefits A democratically elected government banning something is the people deciding.
- lazyeye 4y agoRidiculous argument. A lot of people choose meth.
- kelseyfrog 4y agoIt sounds like your argument is, The government can be a force for good for people who aren't capable of making rational decisions.
- lazyeye 4y agoExactly and young people lack the life experience to comprehend the long-term risks associated with surrendering their private data to the CCP or being exposed to sophisticated disinformation campaigns over time. So it is incumbent on the govt to protect their long-term interests. And to also ensure that trade relationships are fair and equitable (which it currently isnt).
- kelseyfrog 4y agoI fail to see how free markets work if people aren't rational actors. We might as well have a communist economy if we can't count on that. Besides, anytime we see the government intervene on matters like this, we're reminded how they make it worse.
- lazyeye 4y agoOr we may as well have no laws because people are completely rational actors no matter their age etc... And you didn't address my point with respect to young people's lack of life experience. Or that trade relationships should be fair and equitable.
- kelseyfrog 4y agoI'm a parent, I guide my kiddos when rationality escapes them. The process itself, parent-child, teaches them how to make their own decisions. Governments can't teach people how to make their own decisions. The statement that trade relationships must be fair is some sort of neoliberal mumbo jumbo. I don't accept it as an assumption or a consequence. You can accept it as axiomatic if you want, but I don't see it as a consequence of any valid logical train of thought.
- lazyeye 4y agoYes but govts can try to minimize the damage from people making bad decisions. Which they do constantly, across all areas of society. And what you describe as "neo-liberal mumbo-jumbo" I think for most people would be seen as simple commonsense.
- kelseyfrog 4y agoIt's a social fact which is different from an objective fact based in reality.
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