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Recipes. Oh my god, have you tried to search for a recipe before? Pages and pages and pages of bloated garbage. I just want ingredients and steps goddamnit.

rchaud 4y ago
Recipe websites got the point, back when Google AdSense used to pay out properly. Google slashed those payouts to the bone, which led to recipe sites lengthening their web pages with paragraphs, so they could fit in more ads to compensate for the reduction in payouts. Something similar will happen here. Today, recipes on Chatgpt are to the point. Tomorrow, they might start adding affiliate links to the ingredients. A year from now, the experience won't be any better than what you currently have on Google.
- bleep_bloop 4y ago
  >Something similar will happen here. Today, recipes on Chatgpt are to the point. Tomorrow, they might start adding affiliate links to the ingredients. A year from now, the experience won't be any better than what you currently have on Google. Correct me if I've misinterpreted your comment but it appears you're suggesting that rather than use something that is a superior product in more than one factor, you're advocating for using a product that is terrible in many factors just because... The superior product might get worse... Eventually... Blind loyalty to a corporation no matter how terrible they make my experience and abuse my trust isn't really something I'm desperate to cling on to. There is a thirst for ChatGPT for a reason. Nothing is stopping OpenAI from pulling all the same anti-consumer behaviour that Google pulls today, but then the field is wide open for someone to come along and pull a ChatGPT on them, and the cycle continues.
  - rchaud 4y ago
    I'm not advocating for Google at all, they have written the book on how to ruin a good thing with greed. OpenAI will use the same playbook, and possibly more rapidly than Google did. If anything, I'm advocating for a perspective on technology that goes beyond dunking on incumbents because the newer, sleeker thing has arrived. Look at the economics of this industry and the motives of the market entrants; the new thing is only a donut or two or away from turning into the same bloated mess as those it sought to replace.
- vidarh 4y ago
  So we'll run our own models to filter the interactions with the corporate models.
dougfelt 4y ago
Oh man so much this. We have a brief window where ChatGPT will be clean and useful, before it gets loaded down with ads and bloat. Might as well use it while we can.
NoZebra120vClip 4y ago
I have enjoyed WikiHow, which is ad-supported, but eschews all the starry-eyed tales of when I was a wee lass in rural Croatia, and lets you learn how to cook lamb steaks with no-nonsense ingredients, steps, and expert tips. (Read all the way to the end). https://www.wikihow.com/Cook-Lamb-Steaks https://www.wikihow.com/Cook-Lamb-Steaks They've got the basics, so I'd say it's best for novice chefs who want to fix a basic meal. There aren't a lot of gourmet variations or brand-name shills there.

rchaud 4y ago

Recipe websites got the point, back when Google AdSense used to pay out properly. Google slashed those payouts to the bone, which led to recipe sites lengthening their web pages with paragraphs, so they could fit in more ads to compensate for the reduction in payouts. Something similar will happen here. Today, recipes on Chatgpt are to the point. Tomorrow, they might start adding affiliate links to the ingredients. A year from now, the experience won't be any better than what you currently have on Google.

bleep_bloop 4y ago
>Something similar will happen here. Today, recipes on Chatgpt are to the point. Tomorrow, they might start adding affiliate links to the ingredients. A year from now, the experience won't be any better than what you currently have on Google. Correct me if I've misinterpreted your comment but it appears you're suggesting that rather than use something that is a superior product in more than one factor, you're advocating for using a product that is terrible in many factors just because... The superior product might get worse... Eventually... Blind loyalty to a corporation no matter how terrible they make my experience and abuse my trust isn't really something I'm desperate to cling on to. There is a thirst for ChatGPT for a reason. Nothing is stopping OpenAI from pulling all the same anti-consumer behaviour that Google pulls today, but then the field is wide open for someone to come along and pull a ChatGPT on them, and the cycle continues.
- rchaud 4y ago
  I'm not advocating for Google at all, they have written the book on how to ruin a good thing with greed. OpenAI will use the same playbook, and possibly more rapidly than Google did. If anything, I'm advocating for a perspective on technology that goes beyond dunking on incumbents because the newer, sleeker thing has arrived. Look at the economics of this industry and the motives of the market entrants; the new thing is only a donut or two or away from turning into the same bloated mess as those it sought to replace.
vidarh 4y ago
So we'll run our own models to filter the interactions with the corporate models.

dougfelt 4y ago

Oh man so much this. We have a brief window where ChatGPT will be clean and useful, before it gets loaded down with ads and bloat. Might as well use it while we can.

NoZebra120vClip 4y ago

I have enjoyed WikiHow, which is ad-supported, but eschews all the starry-eyed tales of when I was a wee lass in rural Croatia, and lets you learn how to cook lamb steaks with no-nonsense ingredients, steps, and expert tips. (Read all the way to the end). https://www.wikihow.com/Cook-Lamb-Steaks https://www.wikihow.com/Cook-Lamb-Steaks They've got the basics, so I'd say it's best for novice chefs who want to fix a basic meal. There aren't a lot of gourmet variations or brand-name shills there.