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Coming to the conclusion that there is nothing you can do serves no evolutionary purpose either. You should continue looking for an out as long as any possibili

by ouid 4y ago

Coming to the conclusion that there is nothing you can do serves no evolutionary purpose either. You should continue looking for an out as long as any possibility remains, no matter how remote.

Aunche 4y ago
What gave you the impression that I think nothing can be done? You can drive less, eat less meat, vote for certain politicians etc. What's a waste of mental energy is worrying that everyone else is going to do the same thing. This is often counterproductive to the problem it's trying to solve, like Greta Thunberg inspiring millions of kids to skip school in the name of "raising awareness."
- ouid 4y ago
  What do you think mental energy is for? If none of those things seems like solutions to the existential threat, which, let's be honest, they don't. Then the problem is not yet solved. In any robust system, components are responsible for more than just their own personal contribution to failure. There needs to be a certain amount of redundancy. Convincing other people to care more about climate change, and to be more willing to force society into common sacrifices for aggregate benefit takes a lot of footwork. It is not mental illness to participate in this process.
  - Aunche 4y ago
    > Convincing other people to care more about climate change, and to be more willing to force society into common sacrifices for aggregate benefit takes a lot of footwork. If they actually worked to make progress on this aspect, they would feel a sense of purpose rather than dread. Instead, what you're mostly seeing is virtue signalling that targets their own in-group and then being disappointed when that doesn't accomplish anything. Climate activists can learn a lot by looking at the Civil Rights movement in the past. Before the big wins, there were voting drives, legal challenges, and organized carpools to encourage participation in the bus protests. This costs a lot more energy than telling people to skip school on social media, but participation is also significantly more fulfilling.
- jacooper 4y ago
  And all of the things you just listed, do absolutely nothing compared to demonstrating against using oil and coal. Instead they just make your life worse, much more than it helps the environment. Virtue signaling if you will.
  - Aunche 4y ago
    >And all of the things you just listed, do absolutely nothing compared to demonstrating against using oil and coal Says who? What's the marginal reduction of CO2 for skipping a day of school in the name of climate change awareness?
    - jacooper 4y ago
      Probably nothing compared to actually working on replacing oil.

by ouid 4y ago

Coming to the conclusion that there is nothing you can do serves no evolutionary purpose either. You should continue looking for an out as long as any possibility remains, no matter how remote.

Aunche 4y ago

What gave you the impression that I think nothing can be done? You can drive less, eat less meat, vote for certain politicians etc. What's a waste of mental energy is worrying that everyone else is going to do the same thing. This is often counterproductive to the problem it's trying to solve, like Greta Thunberg inspiring millions of kids to skip school in the name of "raising awareness."

ouid 4y ago
What do you think mental energy is for? If none of those things seems like solutions to the existential threat, which, let's be honest, they don't. Then the problem is not yet solved. In any robust system, components are responsible for more than just their own personal contribution to failure. There needs to be a certain amount of redundancy. Convincing other people to care more about climate change, and to be more willing to force society into common sacrifices for aggregate benefit takes a lot of footwork. It is not mental illness to participate in this process.
- Aunche 4y ago
  > Convincing other people to care more about climate change, and to be more willing to force society into common sacrifices for aggregate benefit takes a lot of footwork. If they actually worked to make progress on this aspect, they would feel a sense of purpose rather than dread. Instead, what you're mostly seeing is virtue signalling that targets their own in-group and then being disappointed when that doesn't accomplish anything. Climate activists can learn a lot by looking at the Civil Rights movement in the past. Before the big wins, there were voting drives, legal challenges, and organized carpools to encourage participation in the bus protests. This costs a lot more energy than telling people to skip school on social media, but participation is also significantly more fulfilling.
jacooper 4y ago
And all of the things you just listed, do absolutely nothing compared to demonstrating against using oil and coal. Instead they just make your life worse, much more than it helps the environment. Virtue signaling if you will.
- Aunche 4y ago
  >And all of the things you just listed, do absolutely nothing compared to demonstrating against using oil and coal Says who? What's the marginal reduction of CO2 for skipping a day of school in the name of climate change awareness?
  - jacooper 4y ago
    Probably nothing compared to actually working on replacing oil.