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I know are trolling, but I'll bite. India is very very different from all Western countries with it's own unique problems and requires unique solutions. If poli

I know are trolling, but I'll bite. India is very very different from all Western countries with it's own unique problems and requires unique solutions. If police were to prosecute every small criminal, the already overloaded justice system would come to a grinding halt. A lot of wanna be criminals stay straight fearing the police cane. I'm sure a lot of poor Americans languishing in jails because they couldn't afford a good lawyer and just accepted the plea deal offered to them would rather have had a couple slaps and a cane to the calves. Edit: also don't forget the police is doing what the general public wants. A lot of victims would rather see the perpetrator get beat up by police swiftly rather than wait 10 years to see them get sent to jail.

unixgoddess 4y ago
thanks for replying, it's an interesting POV. However, I was thinking about for example that case a couple of years ago: female workers for an Apple (?) factory kept in bestial conditions who went out in the streets to protest and were beaten by police, and their parents got admonished for raising them badly, with badly meaning unwilling to keep their head low and eat shit. Also, the apparently many cases of women who go denounce a rape and police rape them themselves. Is it really the general public that wants the police, or just the wealthy elites? because I suspect that the masses would rather be free to protect themselves on their own...
- throw93 4y ago
  Police most often serves the capital owners through the politicians funded by capital owners. The farmers protest in India was a good example of this. Police tried to barricade, beat up the farmers who were protesting a law that would’ve benefited the agro companies and put small farmers on a weak position.
  - zapdrive 4y ago
    You know nothing about the laws, they were hugely for the benefit for the small farmers. Regardless, it's a lie that police beat up farmers. Yes they did put up barricades to stop them from entering the capital, but nobody was beaten, unless they broke the barricades and attacked the police. The farmers stayed on the border of capital for months, nobody said anything to them. Stop spreading propaganda.
    - throw93 4y ago
      Delhi police has a history of beating up protesters and Delhi police works directly for central government and not state administration. You would know if you follow Indian news. > You know nothing about the laws Personal attacks usually indicate defending a flawed position. The farmers participating in the largest protest in history definitely knew how the law affected them, as opposed to the govt who passed the laws without discussion. > Regardless, it's a lie that police beat up farmers. There are literally tons of videos police beating up farmers. So I’m not sure what you’re talking about. > Stop spreading propaganda. The Indian news media did propaganda against farmers. These news channels who never say a word against BJP govt tried so hard to undermine the protest that they were banned from covering the protest. They literally have a name “Godi Media” meaning media sitting in the lap of Modi.
- zapdrive 4y ago
  Oh sorry I didn't know I was arguing with a woke feminist, there is no winning here. However, I'll keep biting. Can you provide a citation for: > Also, the apparently many cases of women who go denounce a rape and police rape them themselves Do you have a citation or did you pull it out of the echo chamber subreddit called two x chromosomes? And I am ready to bet my ass that police brutality against men in India is at least 100x as compared to women. But no, let's talk about the fictional narrative that you want to push.
  - unixgoddess 4y ago
    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/india-police-officer-accused-raping-alleged-child-gang-rape-victim/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/india-police-officer-accused-ra... https://nypost.com/2022/05/05/indian-girl-who-reported-gang-rape-raped-again-by-cop-police/ https://nypost.com/2022/05/05/indian-girl-who-reported-gang-... Also, they were just examples. I have no doubts that men are affected too. And now you talk about "police brutality", weren't you saying they are good guys?

unixgoddess 4y ago

thanks for replying, it's an interesting POV. However, I was thinking about for example that case a couple of years ago: female workers for an Apple (?) factory kept in bestial conditions who went out in the streets to protest and were beaten by police, and their parents got admonished for raising them badly, with badly meaning unwilling to keep their head low and eat shit. Also, the apparently many cases of women who go denounce a rape and police rape them themselves. Is it really the general public that wants the police, or just the wealthy elites? because I suspect that the masses would rather be free to protect themselves on their own...

throw93 4y ago
Police most often serves the capital owners through the politicians funded by capital owners. The farmers protest in India was a good example of this. Police tried to barricade, beat up the farmers who were protesting a law that would’ve benefited the agro companies and put small farmers on a weak position.
- zapdrive 4y ago
  You know nothing about the laws, they were hugely for the benefit for the small farmers. Regardless, it's a lie that police beat up farmers. Yes they did put up barricades to stop them from entering the capital, but nobody was beaten, unless they broke the barricades and attacked the police. The farmers stayed on the border of capital for months, nobody said anything to them. Stop spreading propaganda.
  - throw93 4y ago
    Delhi police has a history of beating up protesters and Delhi police works directly for central government and not state administration. You would know if you follow Indian news. > You know nothing about the laws Personal attacks usually indicate defending a flawed position. The farmers participating in the largest protest in history definitely knew how the law affected them, as opposed to the govt who passed the laws without discussion. > Regardless, it's a lie that police beat up farmers. There are literally tons of videos police beating up farmers. So I’m not sure what you’re talking about. > Stop spreading propaganda. The Indian news media did propaganda against farmers. These news channels who never say a word against BJP govt tried so hard to undermine the protest that they were banned from covering the protest. They literally have a name “Godi Media” meaning media sitting in the lap of Modi.
zapdrive 4y ago
Oh sorry I didn't know I was arguing with a woke feminist, there is no winning here. However, I'll keep biting. Can you provide a citation for: > Also, the apparently many cases of women who go denounce a rape and police rape them themselves Do you have a citation or did you pull it out of the echo chamber subreddit called two x chromosomes? And I am ready to bet my ass that police brutality against men in India is at least 100x as compared to women. But no, let's talk about the fictional narrative that you want to push.
- unixgoddess 4y ago
  https://www.cbsnews.com/news/india-police-officer-accused-raping-alleged-child-gang-rape-victim/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/india-police-officer-accused-ra... https://nypost.com/2022/05/05/indian-girl-who-reported-gang-rape-raped-again-by-cop-police/ https://nypost.com/2022/05/05/indian-girl-who-reported-gang-... Also, they were just examples. I have no doubts that men are affected too. And now you talk about "police brutality", weren't you saying they are good guys?