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Breaking: the runners lagging behind in the AI race demand openAI to stop right on its tracks; this is very unsafe; it will be much safer once we catch up and o

Breaking: the runners lagging behind in the AI race demand openAI to stop right on its tracks; this is very unsafe; it will be much safer once we catch up and openAI is on the rear view mirror.

sp527 4y ago
“AI will probably most likely lead to the end of the world, but in the meantime, there'll be great companies” - Sam Altman But sure, let’s just let this guy who sounds like a madman keep going. What could possibly go wrong?
- nawgz 4y ago
  Do you honestly find this quote out-of-sorts with what a normal CEO says? Oil companies have been knowingly poisoning the globe for their own profit - no probabilities involved - since at least the 70s, probably earlier, and on the flip-side building massive propaganda and influence machines, and further to that end even buying and squashing green patents of all sorts. If you're going to cry that we should regulate AI because of this actually somewhat comedic quote, well, I hope your comment history is full of general pro-regulation politic
  - adamsmith143 4y ago
    Do you really believe that people think AI is risky because of 1 Sam Altman quote?
    - nawgz 4y ago
      Do you really think it's appropriate to read my comment as a general argument and not a reprimand of its parent?
- steve76 4y ago
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permo-w 4y ago
do you think it’s not unsafe?
adamsmith143 4y ago
This is frankly a bad and cavalier take on an extremely important subject. Many on the list are Academics outside AI/ML and/or leaders of AI orgs at the very top of the field that have no need to catch up to or slow down OpenAI to benefit themselves. Risks from AI are very real and Sam Altman himself has said so numerous times. He also in fact advocated for slowing down AI progress on Lex Fridman's podcast this month.
- EForEndeavour 4y ago
  How do we reconcile Sam Altman's position as CEO of OpenAI with his repeated calls to slow down AI progress? Is the expectation that his conscience, sense of ethics, and concern for his own company's impact on society will temper the opposing urge/pressure to maintain OpenAI's lead in the AI market?
  - slowmovintarget 4y ago
    "Obviously everyone else should slow down. We're fine."
  - adamsmith143 4y ago
    I'm generally not a big fan of Altman or OpenAI but their corporate structure ensures limited upside to Altman and the employees so other than recognition/fame which I think as the head of YC for many years Altman already had plenty of there isn't a huge incentive for them to maintain their lead. Short of like a binding UN resolution or something similar we don't have a sliver of hope to slow down global AI progress which is a major factor in the doomer argument.

Breaking: the runners lagging behind in the AI race demand openAI to stop right on its tracks; this is very unsafe; it will be much safer once we catch up and openAI is on the rear view mirror.

sp527 4y ago

“AI will probably most likely lead to the end of the world, but in the meantime, there'll be great companies” - Sam Altman But sure, let’s just let this guy who sounds like a madman keep going. What could possibly go wrong?

nawgz 4y ago
Do you honestly find this quote out-of-sorts with what a normal CEO says? Oil companies have been knowingly poisoning the globe for their own profit - no probabilities involved - since at least the 70s, probably earlier, and on the flip-side building massive propaganda and influence machines, and further to that end even buying and squashing green patents of all sorts. If you're going to cry that we should regulate AI because of this actually somewhat comedic quote, well, I hope your comment history is full of general pro-regulation politic
- adamsmith143 4y ago
  Do you really believe that people think AI is risky because of 1 Sam Altman quote?
  - nawgz 4y ago
    Do you really think it's appropriate to read my comment as a general argument and not a reprimand of its parent?
steve76 4y ago
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permo-w 4y ago

do you think it’s not unsafe?

adamsmith143 4y ago

This is frankly a bad and cavalier take on an extremely important subject. Many on the list are Academics outside AI/ML and/or leaders of AI orgs at the very top of the field that have no need to catch up to or slow down OpenAI to benefit themselves. Risks from AI are very real and Sam Altman himself has said so numerous times. He also in fact advocated for slowing down AI progress on Lex Fridman's podcast this month.

EForEndeavour 4y ago
How do we reconcile Sam Altman's position as CEO of OpenAI with his repeated calls to slow down AI progress? Is the expectation that his conscience, sense of ethics, and concern for his own company's impact on society will temper the opposing urge/pressure to maintain OpenAI's lead in the AI market?
- slowmovintarget 4y ago
  "Obviously everyone else should slow down. We're fine."
- adamsmith143 4y ago
  I'm generally not a big fan of Altman or OpenAI but their corporate structure ensures limited upside to Altman and the employees so other than recognition/fame which I think as the head of YC for many years Altman already had plenty of there isn't a huge incentive for them to maintain their lead. Short of like a binding UN resolution or something similar we don't have a sliver of hope to slow down global AI progress which is a major factor in the doomer argument.