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For some reasons they ship it with servers as well. So the first task after getting ubuntu up and running, you have to uninstall snap.

by Jnr 4y ago

hobs 4y ago
One of many reasons to not use ubuntu for your servers.
7speter 4y ago
Well snaps are supposed to be this great server feature because you can install whatever great program from whatever other distro ecosystem using snaps… or something
dizhn 4y ago
LXD is a legit product. Too bad they only ship it as snaps. I think Debian finally has packages for it but I haven't tested it. I actually stopped using it because I don't want to use an Ubuntu stewarded project. More and more it's getting harder to use plain lxc. Almost all resources are talking about it in an lxd context nowadays.
- rascul 4y ago
  openSUSE has natively packaged LXD in their official repo. Looks like Debian bookworm does as well.
- Jnr 4y ago
  After using lxc and then lxd for some time I switched to Docker and never looked back.
phendrenad2 4y ago
I'm curious - what's wrong with snaps on the server?
- Jnr 4y ago
  Same as on Desktop. They are terribly slow, resource hungry, update automatically. On a bit older desktop I have seen it take 5-10 seconds just to start Chromium. And not the initial start after fresh install, it happens every single time. Meanwhile Flatpak or local packages start instantly on the same machine.
  - phendrenad2 4y ago
    So if I install a web server as a snap, it'll be slower, take up more resources, and restart randomly? I find that hard to believe.
    - Jnr 4y ago
      It updates, not restarts. That can lead to problems after restart.
      - phendrenad2 4y ago
        Sounds like a SRE nightmare. Updates happening when you didn't expect them guarantees problems. I'm starting to get a clearer picture of Canonical now.
        phendrenad2 4y ago
        That said, if they are working very hard to ensure that the updates don't break anything, then this is perfectly fine. Are they doing that? Has anyone been bitten by a bad Linux daemon update? Unless things are breaking in reality, it's foolish to dismiss snaps on the server outright.

For some reasons they ship it with servers as well. So the first task after getting ubuntu up and running, you have to uninstall snap.

by Jnr 4y ago

For some reasons they ship it with servers as well. So the first task after getting ubuntu up and running, you have to uninstall snap.

hobs 4y ago

One of many reasons to not use ubuntu for your servers.

7speter 4y ago

Well snaps are supposed to be this great server feature because you can install whatever great program from whatever other distro ecosystem using snaps… or something

dizhn 4y ago

LXD is a legit product. Too bad they only ship it as snaps. I think Debian finally has packages for it but I haven't tested it. I actually stopped using it because I don't want to use an Ubuntu stewarded project. More and more it's getting harder to use plain lxc. Almost all resources are talking about it in an lxd context nowadays.

rascul 4y ago
openSUSE has natively packaged LXD in their official repo. Looks like Debian bookworm does as well.
Jnr 4y ago
After using lxc and then lxd for some time I switched to Docker and never looked back.

phendrenad2 4y ago

I'm curious - what's wrong with snaps on the server?

Jnr 4y ago
Same as on Desktop. They are terribly slow, resource hungry, update automatically. On a bit older desktop I have seen it take 5-10 seconds just to start Chromium. And not the initial start after fresh install, it happens every single time. Meanwhile Flatpak or local packages start instantly on the same machine.
- phendrenad2 4y ago
  So if I install a web server as a snap, it'll be slower, take up more resources, and restart randomly? I find that hard to believe.
  - Jnr 4y ago
    It updates, not restarts. That can lead to problems after restart.
    - phendrenad2 4y ago
      Sounds like a SRE nightmare. Updates happening when you didn't expect them guarantees problems. I'm starting to get a clearer picture of Canonical now.
      - phendrenad2 4y ago
        That said, if they are working very hard to ensure that the updates don't break anything, then this is perfectly fine. Are they doing that? Has anyone been bitten by a bad Linux daemon update? Unless things are breaking in reality, it's foolish to dismiss snaps on the server outright.