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I have nothing but farm for hours just 10 minutes from house in the EU. There's a lot more than "services, tourism, and tech."

lm28469 4y ago
Of course, but with automation and modern mass farming techniques it represents 1% of the jobs it used to, the rest of the population has been pushed out in services &co If the future Google of lab grown meats comes in the game you'll get even more centralisation, less small/medium exploitations, and most likely 0 local production given the barrier to entry
- MichaelZuo 4y ago
  > Every industry is doomed when developing countries can do the same for half the price... Which is exactly why Europe delocalised a lot of industries in the first place and is now mostly stuck with services, tourism and tech. This seems false, if there is uninterrupted farmland for hours, regardless of what % EU farms employed?
unixgoddess 4y ago
are you in eastern europe? for most western europe, europe means western europe unfortunately
- lm28469 4y ago
  Eastern Europe is actually the opposite, lower tourism than the west and higher industry: less offshoring + western countries relocated some industries to the east to benefits from lower wages https://preview.redd.it/fmpg5f0i9bc31.png?auto=webp&s=96ce53770942e5a12f04b32db69dba4e64e06f70 https://preview.redd.it/fmpg5f0i9bc31.png?auto=webp&s=96ce53...
  - unixgoddess 4y ago
    that's my point, they have much higher farming and industry than service, so it's not surprising that OP has tons of farms around
- RugnirViking 4y ago
  ??? There is so much agriculture in western europe, look at net food exports by country. Germany, france, netherlands, uk...
- withinboredom 4y ago
  Netherlands. Very dense cities surrounded by farm land. One of my friends is an engineer for food manufacturing equipment. Another for payment processing, and another as a bike mechanic, and another builds gaming rigs (think sim rigs). I don’t think I know anyone who works in tourism.
  - unixgoddess 4y ago
    are there really hours worth of travel in the netherlands? or perhaps you meant travel by bike
    - withinboredom 4y ago
      > are there really hours worth of travel in the netherlands? By car, yeah. By bike? You're crazy -- but totally doable. If you wanted to hit all the major population centers (Maastricht, Nijmegen, Enschede, Groningen, Amsterdam, Den Hague, Rotterdam, Utrecht, Eindhoven), you'd be driving for about 10-12 hours ... with lots of boring farmland in between.
      - unixgoddess 4y ago
        I underestimated its size... thought it was much smaller
        carlmr 4y ago
        Maastricht to Groningen is only about 3h20 by car. That's the longest distance I could find between two cities.
        withinboredom 4y ago
        There's a good portion on the Autobahn in Germany on that route, so yeah, it would be a pretty short drive.

lm28469 4y ago

Of course, but with automation and modern mass farming techniques it represents 1% of the jobs it used to, the rest of the population has been pushed out in services &co If the future Google of lab grown meats comes in the game you'll get even more centralisation, less small/medium exploitations, and most likely 0 local production given the barrier to entry

MichaelZuo 4y ago
> Every industry is doomed when developing countries can do the same for half the price... Which is exactly why Europe delocalised a lot of industries in the first place and is now mostly stuck with services, tourism and tech. This seems false, if there is uninterrupted farmland for hours, regardless of what % EU farms employed?

unixgoddess 4y ago

are you in eastern europe? for most western europe, europe means western europe unfortunately

lm28469 4y ago
Eastern Europe is actually the opposite, lower tourism than the west and higher industry: less offshoring + western countries relocated some industries to the east to benefits from lower wages https://preview.redd.it/fmpg5f0i9bc31.png?auto=webp&s=96ce53770942e5a12f04b32db69dba4e64e06f70 https://preview.redd.it/fmpg5f0i9bc31.png?auto=webp&s=96ce53...
- unixgoddess 4y ago
  that's my point, they have much higher farming and industry than service, so it's not surprising that OP has tons of farms around
RugnirViking 4y ago
??? There is so much agriculture in western europe, look at net food exports by country. Germany, france, netherlands, uk...
withinboredom 4y ago
Netherlands. Very dense cities surrounded by farm land. One of my friends is an engineer for food manufacturing equipment. Another for payment processing, and another as a bike mechanic, and another builds gaming rigs (think sim rigs). I don’t think I know anyone who works in tourism.
- unixgoddess 4y ago
  are there really hours worth of travel in the netherlands? or perhaps you meant travel by bike
  - withinboredom 4y ago
    > are there really hours worth of travel in the netherlands? By car, yeah. By bike? You're crazy -- but totally doable. If you wanted to hit all the major population centers (Maastricht, Nijmegen, Enschede, Groningen, Amsterdam, Den Hague, Rotterdam, Utrecht, Eindhoven), you'd be driving for about 10-12 hours ... with lots of boring farmland in between.
    - unixgoddess 4y ago
      I underestimated its size... thought it was much smaller
      - carlmr 4y ago
        Maastricht to Groningen is only about 3h20 by car. That's the longest distance I could find between two cities.
        withinboredom 4y ago
        There's a good portion on the Autobahn in Germany on that route, so yeah, it would be a pretty short drive.