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My main problem with framework is that it's ugly.

by lofaszvanitt 4y ago

oblio 4y ago
From what I see it's just a basic, clean, laptop.
- lofaszvanitt 4y ago
  Yeah, but it looks ugly. That's the only thing that keeps me from getting one.
  - fsflover 4y ago
    Do you consider Purism Librem 14 looking nice?
    - bitwize 4y ago
      There's only one laptop that's universally regarded as beautiful: Apple MacBook Pro/Air. Also the most powerful and durable laptop, with the longest battery life.
      - fsflover 4y ago
        > universally regarded I disagree.
      - oblio 4y ago
        > Apple MacBook Pro Notchville? :-)))
      - lofaszvanitt 4y ago
        Yeah it's one of the best. Sadly the M1/M2 chip is problematic for me.
    - lofaszvanitt 4y ago
      Looks a tad bit better, but the font used on that keyboard... is one of the worst I've ever seen. You can exorcise devils with that. Just open it... whooosh, and it's done.
bluedino 4y ago
That's what everyone says about my ThinkPad. While they are clutching their gaudy HP laptop.
- lofaszvanitt 4y ago
  Hp laptops are just plain terrible.
dragonsky 4y ago
So how much does the "ugly" factor into your purchase decisions? for me functionality and ergonomics decide the purchase, if the device is "pretty" is very much down the list. I'm aways surprised by people who purchase computers for work worrying about what colour they are. Who cares, you're looking at the screen and keyboard, not the case when you are using it.
- lofaszvanitt 4y ago
  Do I have to use something that is ugly when I pay a lot for it? Nope, they can keep it. I detest the control freaks who deliberately gimp certain parts of the notebook, just, because, they can or just simply doesn't have the eye for it, because they are so cheapskates to hire an industrial designer and/or their standards are subpar. For example who thought that for EU keyboards the left shift should be short, gimped? And put the slash right next to it. WHY? Why crowd the keyboard keys together? Why fuck up the arrangement of the arrow keys? Why reorder or remove basic keys? Leave the keyboard the fuck alone, just do not try to innovate there. Leave the keyboard fonts alone too, just copy what macbook or thinkpad uses. Or hire someone who worked with fonts to recommend something similar. Sometimes they also fuck up how your palm rests on the keyboard, by not giving enough space. Or make the touchpad off center. Add idiotic things to the touchpad, like a calculator (asus), or a scroll area. These are all factors that are letdowns. Why put a 70% or so srgb shitty screen into a 1000+ USD notebook? And the list goes on. So if it's ugly (see above) I'm not buying it, so easy.

My main problem with framework is that it's ugly.

oblio 4y ago

From what I see it's just a basic, clean, laptop.

lofaszvanitt 4y ago
Yeah, but it looks ugly. That's the only thing that keeps me from getting one.
- fsflover 4y ago
  Do you consider Purism Librem 14 looking nice?
  - bitwize 4y ago
    There's only one laptop that's universally regarded as beautiful: Apple MacBook Pro/Air. Also the most powerful and durable laptop, with the longest battery life.
    - fsflover 4y ago
      > universally regarded I disagree.
    - oblio 4y ago
      > Apple MacBook Pro Notchville? :-)))
    - lofaszvanitt 4y ago
      Yeah it's one of the best. Sadly the M1/M2 chip is problematic for me.
  - lofaszvanitt 4y ago
    Looks a tad bit better, but the font used on that keyboard... is one of the worst I've ever seen. You can exorcise devils with that. Just open it... whooosh, and it's done.

bluedino 4y ago

That's what everyone says about my ThinkPad. While they are clutching their gaudy HP laptop.

lofaszvanitt 4y ago
Hp laptops are just plain terrible.

dragonsky 4y ago

So how much does the "ugly" factor into your purchase decisions? for me functionality and ergonomics decide the purchase, if the device is "pretty" is very much down the list. I'm aways surprised by people who purchase computers for work worrying about what colour they are. Who cares, you're looking at the screen and keyboard, not the case when you are using it.

lofaszvanitt 4y ago
Do I have to use something that is ugly when I pay a lot for it? Nope, they can keep it. I detest the control freaks who deliberately gimp certain parts of the notebook, just, because, they can or just simply doesn't have the eye for it, because they are so cheapskates to hire an industrial designer and/or their standards are subpar. For example who thought that for EU keyboards the left shift should be short, gimped? And put the slash right next to it. WHY? Why crowd the keyboard keys together? Why fuck up the arrangement of the arrow keys? Why reorder or remove basic keys? Leave the keyboard the fuck alone, just do not try to innovate there. Leave the keyboard fonts alone too, just copy what macbook or thinkpad uses. Or hire someone who worked with fonts to recommend something similar. Sometimes they also fuck up how your palm rests on the keyboard, by not giving enough space. Or make the touchpad off center. Add idiotic things to the touchpad, like a calculator (asus), or a scroll area. These are all factors that are letdowns. Why put a 70% or so srgb shitty screen into a 1000+ USD notebook? And the list goes on. So if it's ugly (see above) I'm not buying it, so easy.