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> You can't convince me that the average Framework laptop is more environmentally friendly than a Macbook Air over its lifetime. How do I put more RAM in my 8G

> You can't convince me that the average Framework laptop is more environmentally friendly than a Macbook Air over its lifetime. How do I put more RAM in my 8GB Macbook Air?

rhn_mk1 4y ago
*without replacing the entire thing
- lostlogin 4y ago
  If you’re planning on keeping it a long time, surely you’d get more RAM at purchase time? Minimum ram is never going to be good in 5-10 years.
  - SXX 4y ago
    It's exactly what I usually doing. ThinkPad X220i with 16GB RAM in 2011. Macbook Air M1 with 16GB RAM in 2020. In both cases it was the most RAM I could get.
  - rhn_mk1 4y ago
    If you have enough money up front, or foresight, then yes. Even if that's the case in the minority of cases, that's enough to make it less environmetally friendly that being able to upgrade.
  - chpatrick 4y ago
    Some people can't afford that, and Apple sells storage and RAM at extortionate prices. Maybe you start out thinking you just need to do your taxes but then get a job in video editing. People want to upgrade all the time and it's really bad that you have to toss out the whole computer to do it.
  - sonzohan 4y ago
    You usually have to customize the order on Apple's website to do this, which means your laptop could take a few weeks to arrive. There's also other circumstances where this isn't an option. When I worked at a public university (UC system) that had an agreement with Apple, we could only purchase hardware that was in the University bookstore. The University bookstore only stocked base models. Even the top-of-the-line 15" Macbook Pros didn't have a 16GB option once the RAM started being soldered down.
  - windowsrookie 4y ago
    My friend was using his 8 year old MacBook Air with 4GB RAM until just last year when it stopped turning on. Browsing the web, watching YouTube, checking emails all worked just fine with 4GB of RAM. Microsoft sells the surface laptop 2 with 4GB of non-upgradeable RAM today in 2023. The 8GB of base RAM in the MacBook Airs will absolutely be fine for most people for the next 5-10 years. If you are tech savvy enough to even know what RAM is, then yes, I would recommend upgrading to at least 16GB because you are likely doing more than just browsing the web.

> You can't convince me that the average Framework laptop is more environmentally friendly than a Macbook Air over its lifetime. How do I put more RAM in my 8GB Macbook Air?

rhn_mk1 4y ago

*without replacing the entire thing

lostlogin 4y ago
If you’re planning on keeping it a long time, surely you’d get more RAM at purchase time? Minimum ram is never going to be good in 5-10 years.
- SXX 4y ago
  It's exactly what I usually doing. ThinkPad X220i with 16GB RAM in 2011. Macbook Air M1 with 16GB RAM in 2020. In both cases it was the most RAM I could get.
- rhn_mk1 4y ago
  If you have enough money up front, or foresight, then yes. Even if that's the case in the minority of cases, that's enough to make it less environmetally friendly that being able to upgrade.
- chpatrick 4y ago
  Some people can't afford that, and Apple sells storage and RAM at extortionate prices. Maybe you start out thinking you just need to do your taxes but then get a job in video editing. People want to upgrade all the time and it's really bad that you have to toss out the whole computer to do it.
- sonzohan 4y ago
  You usually have to customize the order on Apple's website to do this, which means your laptop could take a few weeks to arrive. There's also other circumstances where this isn't an option. When I worked at a public university (UC system) that had an agreement with Apple, we could only purchase hardware that was in the University bookstore. The University bookstore only stocked base models. Even the top-of-the-line 15" Macbook Pros didn't have a 16GB option once the RAM started being soldered down.
- windowsrookie 4y ago
  My friend was using his 8 year old MacBook Air with 4GB RAM until just last year when it stopped turning on. Browsing the web, watching YouTube, checking emails all worked just fine with 4GB of RAM. Microsoft sells the surface laptop 2 with 4GB of non-upgradeable RAM today in 2023. The 8GB of base RAM in the MacBook Airs will absolutely be fine for most people for the next 5-10 years. If you are tech savvy enough to even know what RAM is, then yes, I would recommend upgrading to at least 16GB because you are likely doing more than just browsing the web.