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>Does the economist suggest an "open borders" policy? No, because they know that that would be silly. Can you explain why that would be silly - sillier than, f

by comicjk 15y ago

>Does the economist suggest an "open borders" policy? No, because they know that that would be silly. Can you explain why that would be silly - sillier than, for example, the open borders between states in the US? I'm glad you have such concern for the poorer citizens of the US. Throw in a little sympathy for the poorer citizens of Mexico and I'll be really impressed.

batista 15y ago
Can you explain why that would be silly - sillier than, for example, the open borders between states in the US? Because the US is a single country. The states are just different jurisdictions, but major economic, political, foreign affair, budget, etc decisions are taken at the US level. One reason you can not even think of the problems that open borders can bring, is because the US is basically isolated geographically, besides Canada and Mexico. Now, Canada is no threat to anyone, and Mexico you already had a war with and stole some of their land IIRC. If you were next to 2-6 other countries, with loaded historical issues between you, as most countries are with the exception of places like Australia etc, the case would be very different. I'm glad you have such concern for the poorer citizens of the US. Throw in a little sympathy for the poorer citizens of Mexico and I'll be really impressed. Oh, I have a lot. The thinking that migration, illegal or not, is the answer to their problems is idiotic. For the vast majority, it's not like the Nebraska waitress going to LA to become a movie star, or the Mexican geek going to the Valley to be an entrepreneur. Most people don't migrate because of a dream, but because of necessity. This, btw, is the reason poor Mexicans migrate to the US, and not Americans to Mexico. They migrate with deep sadness in order to find a better life. This life should be provided for them AT THEIR HOME, not by having them go somewhere where they have no family, no friends, and no support infrastructure (no society of their own), and no cultural roots, in order to provide cheap labor. My people have been forced to migrate en masse, as of lately, to other countries because of financial hardships. It's no fun. And we'd rather not do it. You care for the mexican workers? Support Mexico, don't have your corporations piss on them, don't support local governments that fc them over for your profits, be they corporate or of foreign influence, and then we can see about immigration.

by comicjk 15y ago

batista 15y ago

Can you explain why that would be silly - sillier than, for example, the open borders between states in the US? Because the US is a single country. The states are just different jurisdictions, but major economic, political, foreign affair, budget, etc decisions are taken at the US level. One reason you can not even think of the problems that open borders can bring, is because the US is basically isolated geographically, besides Canada and Mexico. Now, Canada is no threat to anyone, and Mexico you already had a war with and stole some of their land IIRC. If you were next to 2-6 other countries, with loaded historical issues between you, as most countries are with the exception of places like Australia etc, the case would be very different. I'm glad you have such concern for the poorer citizens of the US. Throw in a little sympathy for the poorer citizens of Mexico and I'll be really impressed. Oh, I have a lot. The thinking that migration, illegal or not, is the answer to their problems is idiotic. For the vast majority, it's not like the Nebraska waitress going to LA to become a movie star, or the Mexican geek going to the Valley to be an entrepreneur. Most people don't migrate because of a dream, but because of necessity. This, btw, is the reason poor Mexicans migrate to the US, and not Americans to Mexico. They migrate with deep sadness in order to find a better life. This life should be provided for them AT THEIR HOME, not by having them go somewhere where they have no family, no friends, and no support infrastructure (no society of their own), and no cultural roots, in order to provide cheap labor. My people have been forced to migrate en masse, as of lately, to other countries because of financial hardships. It's no fun. And we'd rather not do it. You care for the mexican workers? Support Mexico, don't have your corporations piss on them, don't support local governments that fc them over for your profits, be they corporate or of foreign influence, and then we can see about immigration.