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Better in some ways, worse in others. If you are just driving around town, plugging in at night is probably better than having to fill up at a gas station. If y

by thayne 4y ago

Better in some ways, worse in others. If you are just driving around town, plugging in at night is probably better than having to fill up at a gas station. If you are driving your family, including young children halfway across the country to visit in-laws, having to stop for hours while waiting for your car to charge is much, much worse. Even if charging stations become ubiquitous.

ugh123 4y ago
> having to stop for hours while waiting for your car to charge is much, much worse So will this never get any better? Will it still take hours to charge, 5 years from now? What was it like 5 years ago?
- thayne 4y ago
  I'm sure it will get better. But the parent said EVs are better now. My point is they aren't for everyone. I purchased a vehicle in recent past, I looked into getting an EV, and came to the conclusion that none of the options, especially ones I could buy used, would fit my needs. Five years from now? Maybe, but I wouldn't bet on it. And I really hope I won't need a new car that soon.
- bseto 4y ago
  your username says it all. ugh is what I always think when someone complains about roadtrips. I personally do not have kids, but I love roadtripping my Tesla. With my ICE car, I used to drive as fast as possible, as long as possible thinking that's the way, but I'd also end up so burnt out after 8 or 9 hours of driving. I'm going to make a 12 hour drive this weekend, it'll end up being around 13 hours with a Tesla, but my Fiancé and I are making a list cool things we'll do when we make the stops, and we'll actually enjoy making the trip over the 13 hours. Each stop will be around 15-20mins every 3 hours which is perfect for getting a stretch, snacking, or going to the washroom. I'll also have the newest updated FSD11 for the highway which has been a large improvement over the previous autopilot on highways - the biggest for me is that it now bias's over to the left (or right), if I'm passing a large semi (or if the semi is passing me)
brewdad 4y ago
Car rentals are a thing for that once a year road trip. I’m making the assumption your aren’t driving 1500 miles each way every other weekend.
mperham 4y ago
Every new EV sold today can charge from 0% to 80% in an hour. You can drive 250 miles before lunch and 250 after.
- favsq 4y ago
  Or you can buy an ICE vehicle and charge to 100% in one minute. Your choice, really.
  - concordDance 4y ago
    That speed is just not useful. You need a lunch break in your 8 hour drive. (Also, the entire pit stop time for ICE is much more than a minute, so it's a false comparison)
- Yizahi 4y ago
  Do you eat or work at the gas/charge station? If no, then you also need to add trip travel time from work to the charger and back. And possibly city transport ticket fees for two trips if the charger is far away.
- dagw 4y ago
  The overlap between places with lots of charging stations and places I would really like to spend and hour for lunch while on a road trip isn't huge. I'm not saying you cannot road trip with an EV. Lots of people obviously do. But there is something about having to plan your route in detail before you leave and having all your stops dictated to you by your GPS which feels unappealing.
  - thayne 4y ago
    And if you want to spend your hour break somewhere where your restless kids can safely run around, it norrows it down even more.
surrealize 4y ago
> having to stop for hours while waiting for your car to charge is much, much worse Have you done this? I picture burning some kid-energy during those breaks. I'm genuinely curious about how that ends up impacting the trip experience.

by thayne 4y ago

ugh123 4y ago

> having to stop for hours while waiting for your car to charge is much, much worse So will this never get any better? Will it still take hours to charge, 5 years from now? What was it like 5 years ago?

thayne 4y ago
I'm sure it will get better. But the parent said EVs are better now. My point is they aren't for everyone. I purchased a vehicle in recent past, I looked into getting an EV, and came to the conclusion that none of the options, especially ones I could buy used, would fit my needs. Five years from now? Maybe, but I wouldn't bet on it. And I really hope I won't need a new car that soon.
bseto 4y ago
your username says it all. ugh is what I always think when someone complains about roadtrips. I personally do not have kids, but I love roadtripping my Tesla. With my ICE car, I used to drive as fast as possible, as long as possible thinking that's the way, but I'd also end up so burnt out after 8 or 9 hours of driving. I'm going to make a 12 hour drive this weekend, it'll end up being around 13 hours with a Tesla, but my Fiancé and I are making a list cool things we'll do when we make the stops, and we'll actually enjoy making the trip over the 13 hours. Each stop will be around 15-20mins every 3 hours which is perfect for getting a stretch, snacking, or going to the washroom. I'll also have the newest updated FSD11 for the highway which has been a large improvement over the previous autopilot on highways - the biggest for me is that it now bias's over to the left (or right), if I'm passing a large semi (or if the semi is passing me)

brewdad 4y ago

Car rentals are a thing for that once a year road trip. I’m making the assumption your aren’t driving 1500 miles each way every other weekend.

mperham 4y ago

Every new EV sold today can charge from 0% to 80% in an hour. You can drive 250 miles before lunch and 250 after.

favsq 4y ago
Or you can buy an ICE vehicle and charge to 100% in one minute. Your choice, really.
- concordDance 4y ago
  That speed is just not useful. You need a lunch break in your 8 hour drive. (Also, the entire pit stop time for ICE is much more than a minute, so it's a false comparison)
Yizahi 4y ago
Do you eat or work at the gas/charge station? If no, then you also need to add trip travel time from work to the charger and back. And possibly city transport ticket fees for two trips if the charger is far away.
dagw 4y ago
The overlap between places with lots of charging stations and places I would really like to spend and hour for lunch while on a road trip isn't huge. I'm not saying you cannot road trip with an EV. Lots of people obviously do. But there is something about having to plan your route in detail before you leave and having all your stops dictated to you by your GPS which feels unappealing.
- thayne 4y ago
  And if you want to spend your hour break somewhere where your restless kids can safely run around, it norrows it down even more.

surrealize 4y ago

> having to stop for hours while waiting for your car to charge is much, much worse Have you done this? I picture burning some kid-energy during those breaks. I'm genuinely curious about how that ends up impacting the trip experience.