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Anyone who did their research knew Binance was shady… They didn’t have an HQ, come on, criminal organisations don’t have an HQ. Companies have them. Shady con

Anyone who did their research knew Binance was shady… They didn’t have an HQ, come on, criminal organisations don’t have an HQ. Companies have them. Shady connections to China, BSC was a mega scam, just ridiculous.

King-Aaron 4y ago
> criminal organisations don’t have an HQ Yes, they do
- diceduckmonk 4y ago
  And even if they didn’t, OP’s logic is not self evident.
  - noduerme 4y ago
    I mean, it's self evident if you're the sort of person who wouldn't buy a pair of shoes from a website that didn't list a physical address, much less wire them money.
    - Firmwarrior 4y ago
      In all fairness, I didn't wire them money so much as shady internet points which I traded for other types of internet points on their site (and promptly removed)
  - trompetenaccoun 4y ago
    In addition they did have a HQ in China until around 2020, but then had to completely leave that market because of the crackdown under Xi. Same as OKX and other Chinese companies. I still think Binance is shady but that's independent of the move. Lots of companies are moving to fully online work right now, is Shopify shady? https://fortune.com/2022/05/20/shopify-president-office-life-competitive-advantage-build-work-around-mission-not-headquarters/ https://fortune.com/2022/05/20/shopify-president-office-life...
  - jjeaff 4y ago
    Is there a large, legitimate business anywhere that doesn't have any headquarters at all?
    - marvinkennis 4y ago
      Gitlab has no offices
    - detrites 4y ago
      You mean the unoccupied 10sqm headquarters on no-corporate-tax island #7? Or their other headquarters as listed on the corporate website and proudly shown off in their marketing?
- ed_elliott_asc 4y ago
  Have you not seen the man with the golden gun? He had his own island hq.
varunjain99 4y ago
Rather surprising to me that it's taken this long to bring such a lawsuit... They literally don't put a headquarter to claim to avoid all regulations
nwatson 4y ago
Incidentally, Yakuza have HQs, business cards, offices, office buildings, lots of presence in legitimate businesses (eg construction). http://www.japansubculture.com/resources/yakuza-organisations/ http://www.japansubculture.com/resources/yakuza-organisation...
- livelielife 4y ago
  yes, they're how it became obvious to me that "organized crime" has become part of 'legitimate government', or rather of "the state". the state being this concept which encapsulates all institutions (government, academia, religion) and corporations (the military, the 'criminals' the banks, the media, etc) ruling over all of us; organizing us into a 'civilization'. so the idea is that the legit government is really just the public known face of the state-apparatus, another part of this apparatus being organized crime, yakuzas in japan... chinese triads, italian mafia... latin american drug cartels, etc
SXX 4y ago
Automattic with 2000+ people working for them and they want a word with you. And GitLab... and few other companies that are popular on HN.
- rippercushions 4y ago
  Automatic has a registered HQ at 60 29th Street #343, SF, USA. It just doesn't have too many (any?) people there.
MuffinFlavored 4y ago
Which exchange isn't shady? https://www.nerdwallet.com/best/investing/crypto-exchanges-platforms https://www.nerdwallet.com/best/investing/crypto-exchanges-p... Coinbase Robinhood Webull TradeStation etoro SoFi Binance.US Gemini Kraken Crypto.com Firstrade I haven't heard of half of these...
- kranke155 4y ago
  Kraken. That’s the only one I haven’t found much dirt on.
josu 4y ago
>In May 2020, we became a remote-first company. Accordingly, we do not maintain a headquarters. From the Coinbase S-1 https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1679788/000162828021003168/coinbaseglobalincs-1.htm https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1679788/000162828021...
- nova22033 4y ago
  Company that has filed a S1 with the SEC isn't quite the same as a company that won't tell you where they are based.

King-Aaron 4y ago

> criminal organisations don’t have an HQ Yes, they do

diceduckmonk 4y ago
And even if they didn’t, OP’s logic is not self evident.
- noduerme 4y ago
  I mean, it's self evident if you're the sort of person who wouldn't buy a pair of shoes from a website that didn't list a physical address, much less wire them money.
  - Firmwarrior 4y ago
    In all fairness, I didn't wire them money so much as shady internet points which I traded for other types of internet points on their site (and promptly removed)
- trompetenaccoun 4y ago
  In addition they did have a HQ in China until around 2020, but then had to completely leave that market because of the crackdown under Xi. Same as OKX and other Chinese companies. I still think Binance is shady but that's independent of the move. Lots of companies are moving to fully online work right now, is Shopify shady? https://fortune.com/2022/05/20/shopify-president-office-life-competitive-advantage-build-work-around-mission-not-headquarters/ https://fortune.com/2022/05/20/shopify-president-office-life...
- jjeaff 4y ago
  Is there a large, legitimate business anywhere that doesn't have any headquarters at all?
  - marvinkennis 4y ago
    Gitlab has no offices
  - detrites 4y ago
    You mean the unoccupied 10sqm headquarters on no-corporate-tax island #7? Or their other headquarters as listed on the corporate website and proudly shown off in their marketing?
ed_elliott_asc 4y ago
Have you not seen the man with the golden gun? He had his own island hq.

varunjain99 4y ago

Rather surprising to me that it's taken this long to bring such a lawsuit... They literally don't put a headquarter to claim to avoid all regulations

nwatson 4y ago

Incidentally, Yakuza have HQs, business cards, offices, office buildings, lots of presence in legitimate businesses (eg construction). http://www.japansubculture.com/resources/yakuza-organisations/ http://www.japansubculture.com/resources/yakuza-organisation...

livelielife 4y ago
yes, they're how it became obvious to me that "organized crime" has become part of 'legitimate government', or rather of "the state". the state being this concept which encapsulates all institutions (government, academia, religion) and corporations (the military, the 'criminals' the banks, the media, etc) ruling over all of us; organizing us into a 'civilization'. so the idea is that the legit government is really just the public known face of the state-apparatus, another part of this apparatus being organized crime, yakuzas in japan... chinese triads, italian mafia... latin american drug cartels, etc

SXX 4y ago

Automattic with 2000+ people working for them and they want a word with you. And GitLab... and few other companies that are popular on HN.

rippercushions 4y ago
Automatic has a registered HQ at 60 29th Street #343, SF, USA. It just doesn't have too many (any?) people there.

MuffinFlavored 4y ago

Which exchange isn't shady? https://www.nerdwallet.com/best/investing/crypto-exchanges-platforms https://www.nerdwallet.com/best/investing/crypto-exchanges-p... Coinbase Robinhood Webull TradeStation etoro SoFi Binance.US Gemini Kraken Crypto.com Firstrade I haven't heard of half of these...

kranke155 4y ago
Kraken. That’s the only one I haven’t found much dirt on.

josu 4y ago

>In May 2020, we became a remote-first company. Accordingly, we do not maintain a headquarters. From the Coinbase S-1 https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1679788/000162828021003168/coinbaseglobalincs-1.htm https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1679788/000162828021...

nova22033 4y ago
Company that has filed a S1 with the SEC isn't quite the same as a company that won't tell you where they are based.