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I have to disagree. I absolutely have the money to buy a Tesla, but I don't. Why? I don't want a giant button-less touch screen, for starters. Next: I don't w

I have to disagree. I absolutely have the money to buy a Tesla, but I don't. Why? I don't want a giant button-less touch screen, for starters. Next: I don't want to find myself stranded in my state the second I go a ways away from a major city, which is STILL an issue. (I'm almost 50, my parents are still alive. Their house is nowhere near a charging station. It is literally in the middle of nowhere) Finally, I was close to buying a Tesla before...I wanted to do my part to help avoid Climate change. Then Elon Musk showed he was an asshole. Now I won't touch Tesla because Musk is involved. The fact that Tesla vehicles have suddenly become so pronounced in my state (A certain southeastern state that became internationally known for a school shooting yesterday) is testament to why he is doing things this way. He is just trying to drive new sales and he is seemingly succeeding by buying into republican nonsense. Please don't be that idiot. Don't buy anything sold by Mr Musk. Thanks. I am waiting on Ford to ramp up the F150 electric production, however. Power my house in a power outage? Yes please. Haul what I want? Oh boyyy...

cyberax 4y ago
> Next: I don't want to find myself stranded in my state the second I go a ways away from a major city, which is STILL an issue. Unless you live in one of the large northern states, you probably can charge enough for a round-trip in a station along the way: https://supercharge.info https://supercharge.info Or you can do a nice thing and install a charger at your parents' place.
lostlogin 4y ago
> Next: I don't want to find myself stranded in my state the second I go a ways away from a major city, which is STILL an issue. Plug into a normal power socket like most EV users do. Edit: it occurs to me that the US is 120V. This can’t help.
- theshrike79 4y ago
  Yep, 120V countries are harder for at-home charging. Japan and USA as the two biggest ones. My car is charging from a normal socket at 2.7kW right now. I could go up to 3.6kW, but the included charger only goes up to 12A and I really don't need the extra charging speed. I get 100-150km charge overnight easily. 5% -> 100% is ~17 hours and I rarely go under 40% in everyday driving even though I charge only to 80% to save the battery as per manufacturer instructions.
foobazgt 4y ago
I think you're getting a touch screen on all EVs, but some have more buttons than others. My general preference after having lived with buttons for decades and a touchscreen + voice command for four years is the fewer buttons the better. Re: being stranded, I used to live in TN, and I still routinely drive through there. My hometown is practically a village in the middle of nowhere and it still has a supercharger only 30mi from it. I'm having a hard time believing you can get "stranded" anywhere in TN. In the incredibly unlikely absolute worst case, pull out your mobile charger and charge from an RV or 120V outlet. Re: Musk, I didn't like his antics when when I bought my 3 four years ago, and I liked his behavior even less when I bought my Y this year. If I didn't patronize businesses with executives who behaved in ways I didn't agree with, there would be no one left for me to do business with. Good luck with the Lightning! Ford's projecting they will lose $3B on EVs this year, but I hope they pull through.
qwerpy 4y ago
It's funny how I'm sure we're both individually reasonable people but we have wildly opposite points of view on pretty much everything you said. I drive a Model Y and consider it the best possible car regardless of price for me and my family. > I don't want a giant button-less touch screen, for starters. Eh. I'm neutral on this. In some ways it's awesome, like when I want to orient myself on a map or scroll through my music options. In other ways I wish I didn't have to fumble around in a nested window to change climate settings. If Teslas had a few more physical buttons but kept the huge screen I'd be happy. > Range anxiety, parents live nowhere near a charging station I've gone on so many road trips and never once got into an iffy situation. 320 mile range gets you a lot of places. My parents also live two hours away from where I live (Seattle area), but there are superchargers on the route there and a couple of level 2 charging stations closer to their house. And I put in a level 2 charger at their house, so I can always leave with a full "tank". > Elon I'm in WA state, which is as blue as it gets. Despite that, Teslas everywhere. Some of my friends who are die hard Democrats (or even further left), still happy Tesla owners. For me, life is too short to filter everything I do through a political lens. Although if I wasn't already in love with the cybertruck I would be considering a F150 lightning, so I guess we have that in common.

cyberax 4y ago

> Next: I don't want to find myself stranded in my state the second I go a ways away from a major city, which is STILL an issue. Unless you live in one of the large northern states, you probably can charge enough for a round-trip in a station along the way: https://supercharge.info https://supercharge.info Or you can do a nice thing and install a charger at your parents' place.

lostlogin 4y ago

> Next: I don't want to find myself stranded in my state the second I go a ways away from a major city, which is STILL an issue. Plug into a normal power socket like most EV users do. Edit: it occurs to me that the US is 120V. This can’t help.

theshrike79 4y ago
Yep, 120V countries are harder for at-home charging. Japan and USA as the two biggest ones. My car is charging from a normal socket at 2.7kW right now. I could go up to 3.6kW, but the included charger only goes up to 12A and I really don't need the extra charging speed. I get 100-150km charge overnight easily. 5% -> 100% is ~17 hours and I rarely go under 40% in everyday driving even though I charge only to 80% to save the battery as per manufacturer instructions.

foobazgt 4y ago

I think you're getting a touch screen on all EVs, but some have more buttons than others. My general preference after having lived with buttons for decades and a touchscreen + voice command for four years is the fewer buttons the better. Re: being stranded, I used to live in TN, and I still routinely drive through there. My hometown is practically a village in the middle of nowhere and it still has a supercharger only 30mi from it. I'm having a hard time believing you can get "stranded" anywhere in TN. In the incredibly unlikely absolute worst case, pull out your mobile charger and charge from an RV or 120V outlet. Re: Musk, I didn't like his antics when when I bought my 3 four years ago, and I liked his behavior even less when I bought my Y this year. If I didn't patronize businesses with executives who behaved in ways I didn't agree with, there would be no one left for me to do business with. Good luck with the Lightning! Ford's projecting they will lose $3B on EVs this year, but I hope they pull through.

qwerpy 4y ago

It's funny how I'm sure we're both individually reasonable people but we have wildly opposite points of view on pretty much everything you said. I drive a Model Y and consider it the best possible car regardless of price for me and my family. > I don't want a giant button-less touch screen, for starters. Eh. I'm neutral on this. In some ways it's awesome, like when I want to orient myself on a map or scroll through my music options. In other ways I wish I didn't have to fumble around in a nested window to change climate settings. If Teslas had a few more physical buttons but kept the huge screen I'd be happy. > Range anxiety, parents live nowhere near a charging station I've gone on so many road trips and never once got into an iffy situation. 320 mile range gets you a lot of places. My parents also live two hours away from where I live (Seattle area), but there are superchargers on the route there and a couple of level 2 charging stations closer to their house. And I put in a level 2 charger at their house, so I can always leave with a full "tank". > Elon I'm in WA state, which is as blue as it gets. Despite that, Teslas everywhere. Some of my friends who are die hard Democrats (or even further left), still happy Tesla owners. For me, life is too short to filter everything I do through a political lens. Although if I wasn't already in love with the cybertruck I would be considering a F150 lightning, so I guess we have that in common.