Thanks! Just what I needed. On a side note, is there a place that talks about this issue in React and explains why this is needed? There is a hint in the doc.

Thanks! Just what I needed. On a side note, is there a place that talks about this issue in React and explains why this is needed? There is a hint in the doc. It says "... that hold state outside of React". Using web sockets, events come in and some (and only some )affect components. When a socket is connected there is an explicit state that changes, but how that gets into React-Land is difficult. The same issue exists with WebRTC. What I don't really get is why useRef, useState and useEffect are so difficult to get right.