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Had exposure to poultry before falling ill... so no confirmed human-to-human spread.

timcederman 4y ago
Yet
bagels 4y ago
Are there any variants that can spread from birds to humans but not from humans to humans? Definitely not an expert in this at all, but it seems like the virus wouldn't care where it was before it got in to someone's mucous membranes. I can certainly imagine some modes of transfer will be less likely because maybe this variant causes chickens to sneeze, but not people, greatly reducing transmissivity, but seems unlikely to me to be impossible.
- onlyrealcuzzo 4y ago
  My understanding is that most bird flu variants that spreads from birds to humans does not also spread from humans to humans.
- Izkata 4y ago
  > mucous membranes Depends on which membranes. I think I remember reading that the reason these can transfer bird-to-human but not human-to-human is that they can only infect us if it gets so deep into the lungs we can't actually expel it from breathing or coughing.
- ls612 4y ago
  Most bird flu in the past only spreads from birds to humans, or is like MERS in that it can technically spread human to human but with an R0 far less than 1.
wing-_-nuts 4y ago
The problem is, I'm not sure you can trust any news out of china to be the 100% unvarnished truth anymore. Seems the only way you hear any bad news out of china is when it gets 'too big to hide'.
- FiReaNG3L 4y ago
  ... anymore?
- jsisto 4y ago
  Same for American news
  - greesil 4y ago
    Nyet
  - thatguy0900 4y ago
    American news falls over itself rushing to cover disasters.
- __d 4y ago
  And you'd trust the news out of ... where, exactly? I think it's pretty clear from the last decade that the major journalism providers in the US (for example) are also corrupt, and that's true of every country I've experienced. Which is not to say that everywhere suffers this problem to the same degree, but just that the notion of a "trusted source of news" is demonstrably naive.
  - dmix 4y ago
    Just because “American also bad” doesn’t mean that they are in the same ballpark of bad.
    - __d 4y ago
      Agreed. See the last line in my comment.
      - dmix 4y ago
        I read that before replying. That was the type cope that come attached to these sorts of distracting replies to redirect attention to the amateur leagues while the NBA tier players run rampant.
ChatGTP 4y ago
Was this not how Covid-19 was announced ? At first it wasn’t human to human and then…
gruez 4y ago
"Although the virus has caused severe illness in some patients, Chinese authorities say there's no evidence so far that the disease can be passed through human contact." https://abcnews.go.com/Health/mystery-illnesses-china-caused-virus/story?id=68170428 https://abcnews.go.com/Health/mystery-illnesses-china-caused...

Yet

Are there any variants that can spread from birds to humans but not from humans to humans? Definitely not an expert in this at all, but it seems like the virus wouldn't care where it was before it got in to someone's mucous membranes. I can certainly imagine some modes of transfer will be less likely because maybe this variant causes chickens to sneeze, but not people, greatly reducing transmissivity, but seems unlikely to me to be impossible.

onlyrealcuzzo 4y ago
My understanding is that most bird flu variants that spreads from birds to humans does not also spread from humans to humans.
Izkata 4y ago
> mucous membranes Depends on which membranes. I think I remember reading that the reason these can transfer bird-to-human but not human-to-human is that they can only infect us if it gets so deep into the lungs we can't actually expel it from breathing or coughing.
ls612 4y ago
Most bird flu in the past only spreads from birds to humans, or is like MERS in that it can technically spread human to human but with an R0 far less than 1.

wing-_-nuts 4y ago

The problem is, I'm not sure you can trust any news out of china to be the 100% unvarnished truth anymore. Seems the only way you hear any bad news out of china is when it gets 'too big to hide'.

FiReaNG3L 4y ago
... anymore?
jsisto 4y ago
Same for American news
- greesil 4y ago
  Nyet
- thatguy0900 4y ago
  American news falls over itself rushing to cover disasters.
__d 4y ago
And you'd trust the news out of ... where, exactly? I think it's pretty clear from the last decade that the major journalism providers in the US (for example) are also corrupt, and that's true of every country I've experienced. Which is not to say that everywhere suffers this problem to the same degree, but just that the notion of a "trusted source of news" is demonstrably naive.
- dmix 4y ago
  Just because “American also bad” doesn’t mean that they are in the same ballpark of bad.
  - __d 4y ago
    Agreed. See the last line in my comment.
    - dmix 4y ago
      I read that before replying. That was the type cope that come attached to these sorts of distracting replies to redirect attention to the amateur leagues while the NBA tier players run rampant.

ChatGTP 4y ago

Was this not how Covid-19 was announced ? At first it wasn’t human to human and then…

gruez 4y ago

"Although the virus has caused severe illness in some patients, Chinese authorities say there's no evidence so far that the disease can be passed through human contact." https://abcnews.go.com/Health/mystery-illnesses-china-caused-virus/story?id=68170428 https://abcnews.go.com/Health/mystery-illnesses-china-caused...