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OP is irrational here. You can find videos about 'Uyghur genocide' with that exact search term and countless of Tiananmen square videos. Memes about Tiananmen

OP is irrational here. You can find videos about 'Uyghur genocide' with that exact search term and countless of Tiananmen square videos. Memes about Tiananmen square were popular on that platform. As well as videos critical of the CCP. Anyone who claims otherwise clearly hasn't used Tiktok. And they'll shift goalposts to fit their narrative

wkat4242 4y ago
Well yeah because this platform is focused on Western markets. TikTok is not available in China itself, there's a different version. There's no point in hiding these things from western users because we already know about them. If they will block them it will only attract more attention (aka Streisand effect)
throwaway29812 4y ago
> OP is irrational here. You can find videos about 'Uyghur genocide' with that exact search term and countless of Tiananmen square videos. Sure, but would you get delivered this content if you didn't search for it? Or if you are in a contested region? https://futurism.com/china-hong-kong-censoring-protests-tiktok https://futurism.com/china-hong-kong-censoring-protests-tikt... Big difference.
- kvn8888 4y ago
  Yes. I've been delivered John Cena bing chilling memes with slightly racist undertones. I've seen memes about Tiananmen square. Winnie the pooh xi jinping memes. And we're talking about TikTok content in America, not in Hong Kong.
  - throwaway29812 4y ago
    > And we're talking about TikTok content in America, not in Hong Kong. Why? Is Hong Kong not worthy of the same rights to freedom of information as America?
    - Jochim 4y ago
      If you believe that then put it into legislation and fine/ban anyone who doesn't comply. A number of US tech giants, including Apple, have been found to be censoring such terms abroad. That's not what's happened though. Instead, there's a witch hunt spurred on by US politicians who can't tell the difference between Singapore and China.
      - throwaway29812 4y ago
        > A number of US tech giants, including Apple, have been found to be censoring such terms abroad. Per request of which government? > can't tell the difference between Singapore and China. I'm sorry if this a reference to the TikTok CEO? He is Chinese Singaporean. Chinese ethnicity exists outside China.
throwawaymaths 4y ago
That's only because they got called out on it.
chrisjc 4y ago
Why would they ban those kinds of videos. I'm sure we wouldn't be having this debate if they did, because TikTok would have already been shut down in the US and many other countries. And obviously the content makers would just use the platform replacing TikTok to pick up where they left off. The reasons put forth for banning TikTok extend far beyond censorship. Moreover, having observability into who and what are publishing such content arguably provides more value than censorship. Now you know who to watch, who/where/when they are, who their friends/family/associates/audiance are, and build out models and networks to provide even better overall observability and predictability over what you might see as a threat.

wkat4242 4y ago

Well yeah because this platform is focused on Western markets. TikTok is not available in China itself, there's a different version. There's no point in hiding these things from western users because we already know about them. If they will block them it will only attract more attention (aka Streisand effect)

throwaway29812 4y ago

> OP is irrational here. You can find videos about 'Uyghur genocide' with that exact search term and countless of Tiananmen square videos. Sure, but would you get delivered this content if you didn't search for it? Or if you are in a contested region? https://futurism.com/china-hong-kong-censoring-protests-tiktok https://futurism.com/china-hong-kong-censoring-protests-tikt... Big difference.

kvn8888 4y ago
Yes. I've been delivered John Cena bing chilling memes with slightly racist undertones. I've seen memes about Tiananmen square. Winnie the pooh xi jinping memes. And we're talking about TikTok content in America, not in Hong Kong.
- throwaway29812 4y ago
  > And we're talking about TikTok content in America, not in Hong Kong. Why? Is Hong Kong not worthy of the same rights to freedom of information as America?
  - Jochim 4y ago
    If you believe that then put it into legislation and fine/ban anyone who doesn't comply. A number of US tech giants, including Apple, have been found to be censoring such terms abroad. That's not what's happened though. Instead, there's a witch hunt spurred on by US politicians who can't tell the difference between Singapore and China.
    - throwaway29812 4y ago
      > A number of US tech giants, including Apple, have been found to be censoring such terms abroad. Per request of which government? > can't tell the difference between Singapore and China. I'm sorry if this a reference to the TikTok CEO? He is Chinese Singaporean. Chinese ethnicity exists outside China.

throwawaymaths 4y ago

That's only because they got called out on it.

chrisjc 4y ago

Why would they ban those kinds of videos. I'm sure we wouldn't be having this debate if they did, because TikTok would have already been shut down in the US and many other countries. And obviously the content makers would just use the platform replacing TikTok to pick up where they left off. The reasons put forth for banning TikTok extend far beyond censorship. Moreover, having observability into who and what are publishing such content arguably provides more value than censorship. Now you know who to watch, who/where/when they are, who their friends/family/associates/audiance are, and build out models and networks to provide even better overall observability and predictability over what you might see as a threat.