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Strange story: ELIZA's the name of a crude parody of a chatbot, produced in the 1960s.

pnathan 4y ago
Eh, it was the original therapy chatbot. Focused on Rodgerian psychotherapy. I'm not even sure ChatGPT existed two years ago. It seems like a very odd story. I wonder what the core facts are.
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dragonwriter 4y ago
> ELIZA’s the name of a crude parody of a chatbot, produced in the 1960s. ELIZA is the name of one of the early crude (by today’s standards) chatbots, produced in the 1960s, but its not a parody of modern LLM-based chatbots for…reasons that should be obvious. (ELIZA was a parody, but not of a chatbot.) It’s plausibly also something someone might, name a a chatbot that is a more modern, LLM-based design, but the narrative in the article seems inconsistent with it being ChatGPT based (the specific exchanges are inconsistent with it being the original ELIZA, as well.) If the story isn’t completely a fabrication, it is probably some product based around a pre-ChatGPT LLM model (possibly one of the earlier OpenAI GPT-x models or one of the other LLM’s that use GPT in the name), but trying to find a chatbot named “ELIZA” that isn’t the original is…a challenge. The original (and discussion of the “ELIZA effect” named after in conjunction with modern chatbots) makes it practically ungoogleable. “ELIZA” could also be a name that the user supplied to a bot that allows users to name their own instances for personalization.
- spiderxxxx 4y ago
  Eliza was the name of the chat bot the guy made with chai. Eliza (1960s chatbot) is a parody of psychologists at the time, who would be characterized in movies an tv by asking questions such as "and how does that make you feel?" or "how would you say your relationship with your parents is?", or "tell me more about X". It was a way to vent to something that based on the patterns in the program, made it seem as if it was really listening to you (or just playing the scene in the movie), but in fact it was only spitting out algorithmic responses.
derstander 4y ago
> ELIZA's the name of a crude parody of a chatbot, produced in the 1960s. I think this is unfair to the technical challenges inherent in implementing something like ELIZA (in the 60’s!). Crude parody would be fair if it was released today. A phrase that might better account for the state of computing in the 60s would be “distant precursor to modern chatbots”. If Wikipedia is to be believed, ELIZA was written for the IBM 7094 which boasted performance of something like 200 kflops (yes, kiloflops).

Eh, it was the original therapy chatbot. Focused on Rodgerian psychotherapy. I'm not even sure ChatGPT existed two years ago. It seems like a very odd story. I wonder what the core facts are.

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dragonwriter 4y ago

> ELIZA’s the name of a crude parody of a chatbot, produced in the 1960s. ELIZA is the name of one of the early crude (by today’s standards) chatbots, produced in the 1960s, but its not a parody of modern LLM-based chatbots for…reasons that should be obvious. (ELIZA was a parody, but not of a chatbot.) It’s plausibly also something someone might, name a a chatbot that is a more modern, LLM-based design, but the narrative in the article seems inconsistent with it being ChatGPT based (the specific exchanges are inconsistent with it being the original ELIZA, as well.) If the story isn’t completely a fabrication, it is probably some product based around a pre-ChatGPT LLM model (possibly one of the earlier OpenAI GPT-x models or one of the other LLM’s that use GPT in the name), but trying to find a chatbot named “ELIZA” that isn’t the original is…a challenge. The original (and discussion of the “ELIZA effect” named after in conjunction with modern chatbots) makes it practically ungoogleable. “ELIZA” could also be a name that the user supplied to a bot that allows users to name their own instances for personalization.

spiderxxxx 4y ago
Eliza was the name of the chat bot the guy made with chai. Eliza (1960s chatbot) is a parody of psychologists at the time, who would be characterized in movies an tv by asking questions such as "and how does that make you feel?" or "how would you say your relationship with your parents is?", or "tell me more about X". It was a way to vent to something that based on the patterns in the program, made it seem as if it was really listening to you (or just playing the scene in the movie), but in fact it was only spitting out algorithmic responses.

derstander 4y ago

> ELIZA's the name of a crude parody of a chatbot, produced in the 1960s. I think this is unfair to the technical challenges inherent in implementing something like ELIZA (in the 60’s!). Crude parody would be fair if it was released today. A phrase that might better account for the state of computing in the 60s would be “distant precursor to modern chatbots”. If Wikipedia is to be believed, ELIZA was written for the IBM 7094 which boasted performance of something like 200 kflops (yes, kiloflops).